Did you ever find mistakes?

[DrFrag]

Wow, everyone's really observent!

I have a few, but I'll start with this little animation which has bugged me since I was 7:



Fall down ya bastard! Stop breaking the laws of physics! :angry:

I had to get that out of my system. I feel better now.

Alvin has four close friends. Freddy, Sam, Mitch, and an unnamed one. Freddy is the short talkative one ("Hey Sattelite Boy!") and Mitch is the one with no neck (wants to be a Private Eye). The other two are in dispute - one has a mop top of hair covering his eyes, the other has a huge chin and donut lips. In Save The Classmate, Alvin calls the one with a big chin Sam, yet in The Hijacked Airship, Daddy Walrus calls the mop top one Sam.
Okay, so that's kind of obscure...

In The Red Cat, Daddy Walrus specifically says the year is 2031. Yet in The Wreck of The Titan, they find a ship from 1990 and say it's 30 years old, putting the date at 2020. The Red Cat episode came first so 11 years didn't pass, and I'm pretty sure Astro's entire class aren't midgets who were held back in school.

In Atlas Forever, when Astro is recovering in the rescue centre near the UN building, he gets a call from Captain Kili. Astro interrupts him to say "Oh!" and his voice is filtered to sound like a radio transmission along with Kili's. Sounds like they forgot to cut back to regular audio.


OMG I sound like the Sci-fi nerds who get paid out on The Simpsons...

Professor Frink: Yes, over here, n'hey, n'hey. In episode BF12, you were battling barbarians while riding a winged Appaloosa, yet in the very next scene, my dear, you're clearly atop a winged Arabian. Please do explain it.
Lucy Lawless: Ah, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it.
Professor Frink: I see, all right, yes, but in episode AG4 --
Lucy Lawless: Wizard.
Professor Frink: [under breath] Aw, for glaven out loud.

Nnn'hey!

[Astro Forever]

Originally posted by DrFrag@Jun 2 2005, 06:20 PM
Wow, everyone's really observent!

I guess we could also call this thread "You know you watched Astro Boy too much when..."!

I have a few, but I'll start with this little animation which has bugged me since I was 7:

I had to get that out of my system. I feel better now.

You have to wonder why he didn't simply use the jets in his arms!

You made me think of something, DrFrag. I too have an animation that bugged me, from The Hijacked Airship. This object looks like a simple can to me. I know Astro has specials powers, but...!

Alvin has four close friends. Freddy, Sam, Mitch, and an unnamed one. Freddy is the short talkative one ("Hey Sattelite Boy!") and Mitch is the one with no neck (wants to be a Private Eye). The other two are in dispute - one has a mop top of hair covering his eyes, the other has a huge chin and donut lips. In Save The Classmate, Alvin calls the one with a big chin Sam, yet in The Hijacked Airship, Daddy Walrus calls the mop top one Sam.
Okay, so that's kind of obscure...

I tried to find out who was who as well. In Save the Carolina 3, as Alvin asks for help, he says "Freddy... Sam... Help me!" and here are the characters we can see as he says it:


So from that, I concluded that Sam was the one with the big chin. Therefore, in The Hijacked Airship, when Daddy Walrus used Sam as an example, I thought he was speaking of this boy:


And not this one, as I assume you did:


However, it could still be the other way around since the mop boy was close enough to hear Alvin in Save the Carolina 3. It would be a bit farfetched yet not impossible, because this is happening just before the Carolina 3 picture I put above:


I guess Save the Classmate allows us to definitely conclude that Sam is the "big chin boy". Of course, that is if I didn't miss a relevant quote in the episodes you mentionned or somewhere else...

Reminds me of who's on first, what's on second and I don't know on third!

In The Red Cat, Daddy Walrus specifically says the year is 2031. Yet in The Wreck of The Titan, they find a ship from 1990 and say it's 30 years old, putting the date at 2020. The Red Cat episode came first so 11 years didn't pass, and I'm pretty sure Astro's entire class aren't midgets who were held back in school.

Speaking of order/dates, somebody here (I don't remember if it was you, Jeffbert or somebody else) noticed that putting The Great Meltdown after The Runaway Subway Train, as it was done in French/English, didn't make sense. Are there any other order related problems?

In Atlas Forever, when Astro is recovering in the rescue centre near the UN building, he gets a call from Captain Kili. Astro interrupts him to say "Oh!" and his voice is filtered to sound like a radio transmission along with Kili's. Sounds like they forgot to cut back to regular audio.

Seems alright to me, but then the sound system on my computer isn't the greatest and I watched it from an avi or mpg file.




You probably noticed how the anonymous crowds were always made with the same people. In Robot Land however, they did it for the less known classmates, which is quite unusual. It seems there are a few sets of triplets in Daddy Walrus' class! Watch after Alvin and the well-known students jumped on the guy:


However, I don't see any twin before they leave:

[DrFrag]

Originally posted by Astro forever@Jun 3 2005, 12:38 PM
Speaking of order/dates, somebody here (I don't remember if it was you, Jeffbert or somebody else) noticed that putting [b]The Great Meltdown after The Runaway Subway Train, as it was done in French/English, didn't make sense. Are there any other order related problems? [/b]

Yeah, the English broadcast. As far as I can tell, it was the only episode order related mistake.
Also, editing out Atlas in the first two episodes resulted in a flashback to things that never happened, and in the 2003 series the US broadcast really messed things up (like Uran appearing before she was created).

[Strange Wings]

Time to throw my 2 cts in again:



Also taken from 'Save The Classmates'. This scene belongs to the same category as the one appearing in Secret Of Bee City. His rear guns don't seem to have any recoils at all, not to mention to have the ability to bounce off the floor and to stay in the air shortly after.



'The Hijacked Airship'.
Only a robot is able to do that thing to his hands without paying the price resulting in.
My wrists are hurting only by looking at this pic :wacko: .

[Astro Forever]

Originally posted by Strange Wings@Jun 3 2005, 01:39 PM

Only a robot is able to do that thing to his hands without paying the price resulting in.
My wrists are hurting only by looking at this pic :wacko: .

I already posted it in some other thread but this one makes my shoulders hurt:

[Astro Forever]

Another physics enigma, in Atlas Forever this time. I don't want to question Astro's strength, but the building structure worries me. Maybe it's just me, but I wonder how the wall can be strong enough to resist without Astro smashing through it...?


At the very least he would have had to let the wall absorb the impact slowly, just like he did as he prepares to slow the train here:

(BTW the animation doesn't look right as Astro gets very suddenly close to the train, but the scene was: I deleted something in the middle of it. )

If he had had the time to do the same thing with the building, I would have expected the wall to slowly break down around Astro, but maybe the people below it would have had enough time to leave. OR, IF the wall is strong enough to resist, then how can Astro break through various walls so easily? Is this wall so special?

If I am wrong, please correct me.

[Strange Wings]

I'm guessing the law of gravity and inertia doesn't count for the most cartoons. Tex Avery could tell about it.
Perhaps they improved the concrete's mixture for buildings? A special concrete which only allows Astro to break through and to handle it at the same time as one big piece without breaking apart? This is going to be difficult to answer.
Looking at this episodes with an adult logical view would rise so many questions, I personally have given up to scrutinize the most impossible scenes this series are showing.
I'd rather look at them with the eyes of the child in me. Naivety can be so comfortable.

One thing's for sure: Mr. Spock would go nuts while watching Astroboy.

[fafner]

Originally posted by Strange Wings@Jun 4 2005, 12:48 AM
I'm guessing the law of gravity and inertia doesn't count for the most cartoons. Tex Avery could tell about it.

Not a good example, you would end up displaying entire episodes

Perhaps they improved the concrete's mixture for buildings? A special concrete which only allows Astro to break through and to handle it at the same time as one big piece without breaking apart? This is going to be difficult to answer.

Just let me have a try...
What about a concrete with microcrystals oriented such a way that they offer hard resistance when in horizontal position, and much less when in vertical position? Yes, that's the perfect material of the future, just let me deposit a patent right away. I have no table here, so I will just put the paper on the wall to write on it...
<CRRAAAAAACK!>
Oh no! the pencil when though the wall!
Oh never mind... anyway this invention had no future <_<

One thing's for sure: Mr. Spock would go nuts while watching Astroboy.

I would love observe him watching a Tex Avery episode and enjoy the scene! MMWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! :wahah:
Hey wait :huh: He went though the wall Who the hell used my special concrete to build the experiment room? <_<

[jeffbert]

Originally posted by Astro forever@Jun 3 2005, 02:54 PM
Another physics enigma, in [b]Atlas Forever this time. I don't want to question Astro's strength, but the building structure worries me. Maybe it's just me, but I wonder how the wall can be strong enough to resist without Astro smashing through it...?


At the very least he would have had to let the wall absorb the impact slowly, just like he did as he prepares to slow the train here:

(BTW the animation doesn't look right as Astro gets very suddenly close to the train, but the scene was: I deleted something in the middle of it. )

If he had had the time to do the same thing with the building, I would have expected the wall to slowly break down around Astro, but maybe the people below it would have had enough time to leave. OR, IF the wall is strong enough to resist, then how can Astro break through various walls so easily? Is this wall so special?

If I am wrong, please correct me. [/b]

Not to mention that clip from the 60s opening theme when he lifts an ocean liner by supporting one tiny spot under its keel. A friend of mine was a sonar technician on an attack sub, & he assures me that modern torpedoes do not strike their targets, but rather explode directly under thie keels, thus literally splitting them in half. Since the ship was built to have the support of the surrounding water all around it, I suspect that if anything were to lift it from a single point on its keel, it would probably collapse under its own weight on both bow and stern, and crack right down the middle.

[Astro Forever]

Originally posted by Strange Wings+Jun 3 2005, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Strange Wings @ Jun 3 2005, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I'm guessing the law of gravity and inertia doesn't count for the most cartoons.[/b]

Indeed. Not that I am complaining about it!

Looking at this episodes with an adult logical view would rise so many questions, I personally have given up to scrutinize the most impossible scenes this series are showing.
I'd rather look at them with the eyes of the child in me. Naivety can be so comfortable.

Well, my intent when I started the thread was more to find the unplanned mistakes from the artists/authors. Because of course, if we were to zap everything that isn't realistic, we might as well zap Astro himself, close this board, this site and burn the mangas! And even if Astro himself was real, he wouldn't have much to face anyway in a world without Atlas or aliens, so he'd have a much more boring life!

However, I still find those physics impossibilities funny and interesting anyway, especially when the contradictions arise from the series itself. Astro being able to carry or catch a big flying rock is one thing; okay, let's say I believe it. But then if his body is strong enough to hold one, how could he be in danger of being destroyed by it (The Human Faced Rock)?

There are things in the series that I appreciate more now than I did back when I was a child. On the other hand, I try very hard to not scrutinize everything, but sometimes I just can't help it, and as I can see, I'm not alone. But it's more funny than disturbing, and it makes me review my physics classes!

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Not to mention that clip from the 60s opening theme when he lifts an ocean liner by supporting one tiny spot under its keel. A friend of mine was a sonar technician on an attack sub, & he assures me that modern torpedoes do not strike their targets, but rather explode directly under thie keels, thus literally splitting them in half. Since the ship was built to have the support of the surrounding water all around it, I suspect that if anything were to lift it from a single point on its keel, it would probably collapse under its own weight on both bow and stern, and crack right down the middle. [/quote]
How did you end up talking about this with your friend, if I may ask?