Astro is NOT related to Pinocchio

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Postby BBally » 16 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:[QUOTE=Yuusha Senshi Godaiger;89582][QUOTE=jeffbert;49550]Nuku Nuku also has kokoro. However, Kokoro has nothing to do with resurrection. A robot that had been deactivated then reactivated does not equal a human that had been dead but was later resurrected. Although, in the new series, reactivation was a bit more than merely flipping the 'on' switch, it was more reminiscent of the first Frankenstein film, than Christ rising from the dead.

In the manga, there was a happy ending to the sad ending of the 60s anime, in which Atom was destroyed by the sun. The manga made a sequel to that story in which aliens found and repaired the melted hero. But repairing a burnt out robot and resurrecting a dead human are two very different things.

However, if you want to see it as echoing your religious beliefs, you should know that Tezuka was a Buddhist, and Astroboy has always reflected Buddhist values. All life is sacred to our little hero.
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I'm a muslim and religion does NOT come to mind when I watch or think of Astro Boy.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps not, but that does not mean that the cartoons were void of religious content. I am not saying that they favored one or another religion (see my last post), but with titles that included The Eyes of Christ, Angel in the Alps, and Thirteen Mysterious Statues of God, just to name three, he was certainly not reluctant to include references to religion in his stories. True, the first of those titles I just listed was rejected by the English-language version, while the 3rd it renamed The Island of Mystery. #152, Robot Bombs had Atom disguised as a golden Buddha statue; but it came after season 2 & therefore was excluded from the ELV, as was #188 Tengu of Kurama, which was all about statues of Buddha. #171 Kutcher Forever featured a traditional Japanese funeral, & if I took some time, I could easily find more than a few more references. :D

Although we do not normally allow religious discussions here, we do allow discussions about how the Astroboy stories present religion. I would like your comments that relate to this topic as long as they remain relevant. :astro: [/QUOTE]

You're right, religion can influence fictional works and heroes without the religion being the main theme, example a Kuwaiti published comic book that's available in English overseas titled The 99,the plot is about 99 teenagers from around the globe who each gain a unique super power. The 99 powers are influenced by the 99 attributes of Allah in Islam, however despite being influenced that part of Islam, the comic's author Dr. Naif Al-Mutawa has intentionally kept the faiths of the characters ambiguous in fact several members of the 99 are from non-muslim parts of the world. Dr Naif stated he did that because he saw the 99 attributes in Islam as being universal virtues.
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Postby cybotron » 16 years ago

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Postby dannavy85 » 16 years ago

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Postby Latu » 16 years ago

Wow.. no mean to get off topic but long time no see dannavy85!!!!
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Postby Existential Warrior » 16 years ago

Yeah, I think people who say Astro is related to Pinocchio are getting Astro confused with Kikaider. Kikaider isn't related to Pinocchio, but his dilemma is similar. Pinocchio references are placed everywhere sometimes serving as metaphors.

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Postby tailz » 11 years ago

I know this thread is like 8 years old or so, but I think Pinoko is more based off pinocchio than Atom is considering we all know that Black Jack named her Pinoko from the story Pinocchio.

Pinoko and Pinocchio. Their names sound alike, don't they?

Atom and Pinocchio however, does not.
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Postby Tetsuwan Penguin » 11 years ago

Atom is sometimes thought of as a kind of reverse Pinocchio. In some ways his situation is similar. He doesn't actually want to be a real boy, but he does want for humans and robots to coexist as equals. He was also created by a lonely father to be a son.
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Postby jeffbert » 11 years ago

If I said anything, I would likely be repeating what I said earlier in this same thread, so, I will say this, start at the beginning, pick a specific post, & either agree or disagree. :lol:
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Postby Earthshine » 11 years ago

LOL I thought for the longest time that Pinoko was 'pinochle' fitting in with the card game theme (Black Jack) until I had watched the 2003 anime and saw her origin story. For some reason the name Pinocchio never even crossed my mind.

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Postby tailz » 11 years ago

You just learned something new today Earthshine! : :lol: :

Oh, and I think you mean 2004 anime. If I remember correctly the TV series was aired in 2004. Unless that's just a typo.
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