Jeffbert's trivia quiz

[Strange Wings]

Originally posted by jeffbert@Dec 30 2004, 09:40 PM
"Jeffbert, how tall is Astroboy?" That is a tough one. I am certain such a specification exists; however, cartoon children are almost always depicted as being no more than waist high to most adults. Therefore, such a specification would either require a rather small value, say just about 3 feet high, or adults' height would need to be increased. If we say 4 feet 6 inches, which would make him about arm pit to shoulder height, & we know this is too tall, then adults' height needs to be increased from an average of 5' 9" to over 6'

I myself can't remember of Astro's height being mentioned in both the 80's and '03 series, however if you have a look at the rocket scene in the '03 ep 'Atom In Space', Astro's body weight is stated as 30 kilogramms.
Now, by the 80's ep 'Robot Circus', Toby's height is stated as 4 feet 5 inches (135 cm), therefore one can assume that Astro was built at exactly the same height.

According to the Body Mass Index this would result in a BMI of 16.5 kg/m2, so Astro would show a slight underweight.
<_< Of course in reality this would be utter rubbish since Astro is made out of metal and steel hold together by nuts and bolts, thus, he would reach a weight far beyond of 60 kg, even by considering the fact that he's not fully made out of pure iron.
Also to add are his ammunitions for his bum guns (God alone knows where he's storing them) which could easily increase his weight up to 80 kg.
Well now let's throw the Body Mass Index down the trash since Astro would've reached a BMI of 43.9 kg/m2 by now, thus he simply would be too fat .
( Did a Google search for a robot's BMI. Results = 0)

Alright, I must add if one would reconsider the materials Astro's made of (most likely they are such as titanium, aluminium or/and other light metals), eventually his weight would be less than 60 kg, who knows. After all, in the future also the technical process of making alloys for robots' materials will be improved.

[jeffbert]

Originally posted by Strange Wings+Jan 1 2005, 06:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Strange Wings @ Jan 1 2005, 06:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--jeffbert@Dec 30 2004, 09:40 PM
"Jeffbert, how tall is Astroboy?" That is a tough one. I am certain such a specification exists; however, cartoon children are almost always depicted as being no more than waist high to most adults. Therefore, such a specification would either require a rather small value, say just about 3 feet high, or adults' height would need to be increased. If we say 4 feet 6 inches, which would make him about arm pit to shoulder height, & we know this is too tall, then adults' height needs to be increased from an average of 5' 9" to over 6'

I myself can't remember of Astro's height being mentioned in both the 80's and '03 series, however if you have a look at the rocket scene in the '03 ep 'Atom In Space', Astro's body weight is stated as 30 kilogramms.
Now, by the 80's ep 'Robot Circus', Toby's height is stated as 4 feet 5 inches (135 cm), therefore one can assume that Astro was built at exactly the same height.

According to the Body Mass Index this would result in a BMI of 16.5 kg/m2, so Astro would show a slight underweight.
<_< Of course in reality this would be utter rubbish since Astro is made out of metal and steel hold together by nuts and bolts, thus, he would reach a weight far beyond of 60 kg, even by considering the fact that he's not fully made out of pure iron.
Also to add are his ammunitions for his bum guns (God alone knows where he's storing them) which could easily increase his weight up to 80 kg.
Well now let's throw the Body Mass Index down the trash since Astro would've reached a BMI of 43.9 kg/m2 by now, thus he simply would be too fat .
( Did a Google search for a robot's BMI. Results = 0)

Alright, I must add if one would reconsider the materials Astro's made of (most likely they are such as titanium, aluminium or/and other light metals), eventually his weight would be less than 60 kg, who knows. After all, in the future also the technical process of making alloys for robots' materials will be improved.
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Not to mention the various ways he was drawn, as made clear by

Let's Draw Manga: Astroboy. He was 12 in the first manga, 9, in the later manga, as it was made for 7-8 year olds.

However, your assumptions of weight seem to ignore several things:

1. your body weight index is based upon certain assumptions about bodily proportions. In Atom's case, his head to height ratio varies from 1:3 to 1:5 (Let's Draw Manga: Astroboy, 14). On page 43, there is a comparision between Atom (@1:3.5) and a realistically-proportioned boy (@1:6). Also note that his arms must stretch as clearly shown on page 43. There is just no way that the liitle guy at top right could pose as in bottom right. If we assume him to be 4' 6" tall, as a 9 year-old child, we must calculate for the body of a 4 to 5 year-old because his head is so big. But how to figure his noggin's weight?



2. There would no doubt be metal parts, but with all the light weigyt but high-strength plastics, certainly, there would be plenty of lightweight materials.

3. Of course, his using vacuum tubes rather than Ics makes it an impossibility to make him smaller than an aircraft carrier.

[Strange Wings]

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[DrFrag]

It was a bit of a trick question. As far as I know, it's only explicitly stated on Astroboy Merchandise - he's 135cm tall. (well done on the Toby reference, Strange Wings)

The first question: I was thinking all these actors and actresses had played both child and adult roles.

I had no idea! But then again I use different names for most of those characters.

Toxor? which story was that? I was thinking Spica, of Astro Returns Dark Horsie volume 22.

Toxor The Mist Man was episode 20 of the English 60s anime. I haven't seen it, but I thought the odds of there being another mist/fog lifeform was pretty slim. Now that I read the synopsis, I think you can mark me wrong for that one too.

[jeffbert]

Originally posted by DrFrag@Dec 30 2004, 03:59 AM

[b]Name one story other than the origin of our hero that has been featured in the manga and all three animated series.

The Light Ray Robot (Dark Horse manga #15, 60s Japanese anime #6, 80s English anime #35, 2004 English anime #4).

Atlas (Dark Horse manga #18, 60s Japanese anime #26, 80s Japanese anime #1, 2004 English anime #6).

Uran (Dark Horse manga #14, 60s Japanese anime #37, 80s English anime #13, 2004 English anime #13).

Frankenstein (Dark Horse manga #21, 60s Japanese anime #2, 80s English anime #12, 2004 English anime #9 *cough*sortof*cough*).

Alright, I'll stop showing off. [/b]

I am going be be mean, & show why, except for 2 these are not right. My critique rests upon the stories' main plots. I require that most of the plot elements are intact.

• “The Light Ray Robot (Dark Horse manga #15, 60s Japanese anime #6, 80s English anime #35, 2004 English anime #4)”.
  With Electro, Denkou, Light Ray Robot, or what have you, my only data on the 60s anime version comes from the Tezuka site. As such, I cannot tell if most of the plot elements from the manga are intact. However, judging by other stories, I will assume they are. In the 80s anime, Ham Egg was dropped from Skunk’s henchmen, but that is very minor. However, the manga has Skunk personally burglarize Shib’s dad’s art collection. No big deal that this was omitted from the anime, though. I think the essential plot elements are these:
  
  • Invisible, amoral robot
  • ripped-off by Skunk, & used in crimes
  • Confronted by Atom, and unable to understand his objection to his activities.
  • destroyed in the end, a sad victim of one man’s failure to give him knowledge of right & wrong, & another man’s unscrupulous exploitation.
  The 80s anime has all these essential elements. For 2003, I will let the 4th one slide, because the intent of Skunk was clearly to destroy him. So, I agree that this story is indeed depicted by all three anime.
  
• “Atlas (Dark Horse manga #18, 60s Japanese anime #26, 80s Japanese anime #1, 2004 English anime #6).” First, Atlas is depicted both as an adult and child in the manga, but these are completely separate stories. In the manga, Atlas was to be the instrument of revenge for racism. The Omega Factor™ was key to his being able to attack humans, but his first dealing with them was as a savior. Atlas first gains public recognition by fighting in Roboting contests. However his Omega Factor™ causes him to attack humans. While this character was depicted in all four, there are just too many differences in the stories to say that the either of manga stories was accurately represented by all three anime.
  
• “Uran (Dark Horse manga #14, 60s Japanese anime #37, 80s English anime #13, 2004 English anime #13).”
  Ok, firstly, the manga title is the ½ person. Uran is first depicted as going straight from the box to the wrestling ring. However, in the animated 80s, this incident with the wrestling ring comes well after her origin, in an entirely separate episode. In the 2003, there is no wrestling ring incident. I do not know if the incident was depicted in the 60s anime. Thus, the plot of the manga was not intact in any one episode of the 80s, & not at all in 2003. Her being a naughty girl is simply not enough. She was first the ½ Person.
  
• ”Frankenstein (Dark Horse manga #21, 60s Japanese anime #2, 80s English anime #12, 2004 English anime #9 *cough*sortof*cough*).”
  Like Denkou, Frankenstein is a robot lacking basic rules of behavior in a human dominated society. There are plot elements that did not make it to the 80s anime, such as the ‘KKK’ guys, rather than Skunk being behind the robot’s evil deeds. However, I will let that slide. As I see it, the essential plot elements are:
  
  • Robot that lacks rules is accidentally released and runs free.
  • It is ‘befriended’ by bad guys, & used to steal.
  • Atom fights it, and it is eventually completed, and thus made good.
  
  Secondary details are its entombment in the statue, Atom being blamed for its ripping off Shib’s dad’s jewels or whatever wealth, the ‘KKK’ guys attempting to make war on humans, etc dealing with them. I have not recently seen the 2003 version, but will get back to this after I have.

Nevertheless, both 'Uran' & 'Atlas' are hereby disqualified. I was thinking of Pluto's story, when I posted the question, though.

[jeffbert]

Time for a new question!

In the manga, what was Mustachio's father's occupation?