questions about atlas

[tonigirl1000]

I prefer to think Astroboy has a heart that is pure. I believe if humanity can overcome their warring ways and learn to think like truly civilized sentient beings, robotic life-forms like Astroboy and even Atlas are very possible. Jules Verne once made a prediction about television, he said we would have a version of television in the 29th century, actually he said in about a thousand years.
I also believe we can reach higher level of awareness than has even been realized. Love that lyrics about Astroboy reaching and surpassing the limits of humanity. I believe we can too once we value human life like the gift it is.
Thanks, praying you the very best, your friend Toni

[Daichi]

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Oh, and I just remembered something even more retarded!
There's this random guy that's introduced in this episode, I can't remember his name for the life of me. Astro acts like he's known this guy for years and years, even though he's only just been introduced, and what this guy does...
He says Atlas (as we know, actually the aliens) killed his brother in one of the extremely recent space station attacks. Because of this, he's going to get his revenge with a gun that he invented that would destroy the Omega Factor.
1. HOW THE HELL DID HE KNOW ABOUT THE OMEGA FACTOR!?!?
2. How did he complete it so quickly?
3. How does he know what would counter the Omega Factor?

Oh jumping crap, this was the most random, pointless, and badly-written Astroboy episode ever.


</angry daichi rant>

So, if you, the viewer never see an incident, it never happened? :d evil: I think it may introduce a bit of discontinuity, but on the other hand, we are not seeing Atom's life though a gods-eye view. We see only enough to make the stories complete. By an application of your reasoning, Hars Lencom/Lt. Ryuga Nelson never was marooned on mars, because you did not see it happen. irate: Yes, you saw a visual recollection of it, but not until after Tulip/Cabette/Carlena had begged him to take her along.[/QUOTE]


No, no, you're missing the point. That's not what I mean at all.
I'm not talking about his brother dying or even him appearing and Astro somehow knowing him, I'm talking about how this guy was just something that the writers pulled out of their butt to make this particular episode work, simply put there to make up for bad writing. I was really more on about this guy somehow magically knowing about the Omega Factor, anyway.
Hars Lencom/Lt. Ryuga Nelson disappearing was an example of a time in which the viewer didn't need to see an event in order for it to make sense. It was something that happened in the past and, in its given story, was referred to as needed.
This guy, whatever his name was, is an example of a character who should've been introduced earlier in the series and should've been given some sort of way or reason for knowing about Atlas's Omega Factor.
Understand?

[jeffbert]

Hmm, but my post was such a cool rebuttal of your post! It ain't fair to take that away! Unfortunately, I am not as familiar with the 80s version as I am w/ the 1963 vers. , but I can see your point. It is just like the Hollywood movies that have an implausible element for the sole purpose of continuity or making the plot "make sense."

Like when a character, whom we believe is a reasonable guy does something really stupid, but necessary to the plot.

[tonigirl1000]

Please what is the Omega Factor ? Is Atlas suppose to be representative of someone who has done wrong and then realizes that he has and wants to undo the harm he has done. Thanks

[jeffbert]

My review of the original comic/anime version of Atlas briefly explains the Omega Factor. Please view the page, then, I will entertain any furthern questions.

[Daichi]

Hmm, but my post was such a cool rebuttal of your post! It ain't fair to take that away! Unfortunately, I am not as familiar with the 80s version as I am w/ the 1963 vers. , but I can see your point. It is just like the Hollywood movies that have an implausible element for the sole purpose of continuity or making the plot "make sense."

Like when a character, whom we believe is a reasonable guy does something really stupid, but necessary to the plot.

Not fair? A challenge was made and I had to meet it. X-D

Well, seems to me you have the idea.
It was an example of bad writing, and details like these can derail plots in their entirity, even if it hadn't been for all the other screwed-up details about the episode.

[jeffbert]

I would need to watch the episode again to be sure, but I still say my point is valid. However, please do not argue just yet, wait for me to check.

[Daichi]

*Starts tapping foot impatiently*

Oh fine... Hurry up.

[tonigirl1000]

The Omega Factor was used then to turn Atlas into a weapon against humans. That was something Atlas would have been better off without. Thanks Jeffbert

[Daichi]

Oh come on Jeffbert, hurry up and watch the episode.