Observations: Tenma & Hoshie

[Dr. Jerk]

Tenma seemed to have been very preoccupied, actually, more or less absorbed in the field of robotics. I don't think he ever once gave any thought on companionship or family as he grew up, or ever.

[jeffbert]

I made a page about Hoshie: http://tezukainenglish.com/?q=node/216, though it has been several years since I updated it. I need to thoroughly read pages 2 + on this thread before I make further posts, but so far, this is a great discussion.

[Astronomical girl]

i've read that page and it talks only about her appearence but what did she do to make Tenma goe to the lengths with the relationship? and where does their love concentrate?

[Dr. Jerk]

i've read that page and it talks only about her appearence but what did she do to make Tenma goe to the lengths with the relationship? and where does their love concentrate?

Tezuka never did wrote a background on the two's relationship. He simply introduced them as a married couple who eventually divorced. That was about it.

Everything else is up to fan speculation, or fan-invented, I should say.

[Astronomical girl]

still its a wild and ingriging relationship but how can we answer that bigg question ?

[Dr. Jerk]

You're asking me things that I wouldn't know. While I like, and kinda support, Tenma/Hoshie, I'm not the kind of person who fan-invents things or denies what is canon in the manga.

The only "connection" that I can see, was that they were an a-typical husband and housewife whose love had started to increasingly drop with the death of Tobio and the birth of Atom. And that in end, Hoshie wanted nothing more with Tenma and that Tenma still cared enough to stand at her deathbed, but still obviously did not respect her beliefs very much when he was last seen saying that he doesn't understand "Why anyone would love a robot."

Tenma was much more concerned with himself, and his image, than anyone else really.

[Astronomical girl]

i think she was making a point to Tenma,that there was more to humans then just what we create and built, we are complex creations, we don't need to be godlike, emotions are complex,which do more harm then physical harm does to the body. Tenma neglected his abilities as a human being and when he lost Tobio and Hoshie,he learned the hard way about his humanity.

[Dr. Jerk]

Not exactly, because he still held onto his belief that robots are lesser to humans, as indicated when he still wondered why Hoshie would love a robot.

[Astronomical girl]

why do women love their children? moms don't have to love thier children and babies when they come to this world aren't the most loveliest looking things

[Dr. Jerk]

I know that.

Tenma however grew to eventually learn that Atom was not Tobio, but a robot, and thus treated him as such and grew to hate him, no longer viewing him as his second son, but as a mere robot.

He couldn't understand why Hoshie would love Atom, because he is a robot and not the actual Tobio. And his confusion latest ever since.

Basically, Tenma is one of those who would be classified as 'racist to robots', always been that way.