ASTRO BOY RETURNS (1st & 4th GRADER EDITIONS)

[ASTROBUDDY]

[QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;203341]Thank you Jeffbert for providing some insight on this unusual chapter in Astro Boy's history. As the serial was published from April, 1972 to September, 1972, that would mean that this particular manga story basically lasted six months. In Dark Horse's "Osamu Tezuka's 'Original Astro Boy' " vol. #22, it states (thru a translated by Fredirick Schodt text page from Dr. Tezuka) that Tezuka also included as part of the story, a parody on "Planet of the Apes", using dogs. (A "Planet of the Dogs", per se!) Does that appear after the adventure of the Sphinx and before the Yakuza incident? Does it appear at all? I

I do not see anything that resembles "Planet of the Dogs".[/QUOTE]

Thank you Jeffbert! This is very interesting! If you take out a copy of "OTOAB" VOL.# 22 and go to the last few pages of the book under the section titled "A Little Background Information" by Osamu Tezuka you will find and I quote: "The manga story in this volume, titled "Astro Boy Returns,"...orignally serialized in Shogaku Yonensei...is the very beginning of the overall story..."Planet of the Apes" was a popular movie around this time, so I also wove a bit of parody using the idea of a "Planet of the Dogs."

So this means that either Tezuka's memory of the manga serial was wrong or your collection of reprinted material is not complete and may have only reprinted what is available of the source material.

BTW, have you had translated the panels showing what you have referred to as "Atom Cow"? I was thinking what if the reason he is dispensing some liquid were to help the child? Maybe if we knew the reason for Atom doing this action it might not be found so revolting!

I

[jeffbert]

I only looked through the translated pages; these were only the ones that followed the sphinx ending. I will check the rest of it.

[ASTROBUDDY]

Ah, yes, how silly of me not to have seen the parody of "Planet of the Apes" in the already translated and published portion of "Astro Boy Returns".

Astro Boy lands on a planet of primitive humans and then encounters aliens who have a canine resemblance.

I did not see it at first, nor did I see it in the rereading. But when you mentioned you had not noticed it in the pages after the Sphinx, it was then that I took another look at both the English version and the Japanese version as printed in the Kodansha collection that I own.

So thank you, Jeffbert for your assistance in providing information re: this very unpopular and not seen in English portion of Astro Boy history! Now any insight you can provide re: First Grader edition will be appreciated, especially re: as you call it, "Atomcow"!

I

[jeffbert]

I myself just realized that those creatures were dogs when I saw the plot resemblance; the hero captured in the net, etc. As they all had the perky ears, it was a bit of a stretch to identify them as dogs, until I read your previous post. As dogs go, the breeds were rather few; a bulldog would have made it much easier to identify them as dogs.

I still have yet to pour through the two versions to note differences, though I did see that one frame was omitted from the primitive man sequence. I will add details later.

[ASTROBUDDY]

Thank you Jeffbert, but I was hoping you had a translation for the panels you call, "Atomcow" from First Grader.
While some did not see any humor in the images, to the best that I was able to translate the panels, in panel 14, the first balloon from the right, I believe Atom is saying, "Drink this! It will help you!"
Unfortunately I have been unable to translate the rest, but if any of what I have translated is correct, as you may be aware of, please let me know!

[Toshio]

I have to tell you, I would never want to see Atom doing it in an anime.
It doesn't even feels healty.
I wonder what happened with Tezuka-san when he got these ideas O_o

[ASTROBUDDY]

I have to tell you, I would never want to see Atom doing it in an anime.
It doesn't even feels healty.
I wonder what happened with Tezuka-san when he got these ideas O_o

As you stated before sometimes Tezuka's ideas did not work out. I understand your aversion, but I for one would like to know what the entire scene was about before passing judgement. Even though many are in agreement with you and find the scene revolting, as for me, I (and maybe some others) would like to know more. So how about it Jeffbert, would you please provide more info surrounding the circumstances of Atom's actions in this story?

I

[jeffbert]

oh, o.k., here it is, but 1st, the machineguns:

HEINIE GUNS (62 translated).jpg (92.31 KiB) Viewed 5359 times

I will ask Strangewings about the word he translated 'delicate,' as I think embarrassing would be more appropriate.

ATOMCOW (63 translated).jpg (119.21 KiB) Viewed 3091 times

[jeffbert]

I BELIEVE THIS IS ATOM'S DIALOGUE:

HENTAI (66 translated).jpg (95.69 KiB) Viewed 7665 times

I am sure this image was included only in the reprints & was not seen by 1st grade kids.

Thanks to Strangewings for the translations.

BTW, other than this joke, Uran is naked only in the 80s version, if at all. I am thinking that only Nuka actually did the FFN bit, though.

[Toshio]

The butt machine gun always sounded bad, I even think about a refference in my fanfics which Dr. Tenma decide to not add a butt machine gun, because it could difficult for Atom sit.
Also the joke of the naked child Uran body is pretty bad O_o
I was guessing the juice dialogue would be something like that and I tell you: it's not healthy.
I also like Atom's negative opinion of his "new body" in the 2003 version.