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Postby Astronomical girl » 14 years ago

have you watched the subbed version?
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Postby Xenops » 14 years ago

Hurray! I finally saw the CGI version. I have to agree that the science makes no sense.

It said that blue and red core energy came from 1 star, but how would that work if they neutralize each other?

While the idea of Astro not realizing he was a robot makes an interesting story, I still can't fathom him getting memories from hair. Memories are unique from the genetic code, or DNA. What information you acquire in life is not stored in DNA. That's like saying if I get a tattoo on one part of my skin, the other skin cells should have the information to make a tattoo. Or being able to write with the right hand and naturally you can write with the left hand just as well.

I can understand how the floating city would be appealing, but I think it would take a LOT of energy resources to keep it afloat. Not very economical, unless you have floating islands like on Pandora. XD

But still, I did find the film entertaining, and rather amusing. :)

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Postby Astronomical girl » 14 years ago

"Xenops" wrote:Hurray! I finally saw the CGI version. I have to agree that the science makes no sense.

It said that blue and red core energy came from 1 star, but how would that work if they neutralize each other?

While the idea of Astro not realizing he was a robot makes an interesting story, I still can't fathom him getting memories from hair. Memories are unique from the genetic code, or DNA. What information you acquire in life is not stored in DNA. That's like saying if I get a tattoo on one part of my skin, the other skin cells should have the information to make a tattoo. Or being able to write with the right hand and naturally you can write with the left hand just as well.


You seem missunderstand the concept of Deoxyribonucleic acid or (DNA) (i did spell it :p ) DNA is your blueprint and we are not sure what is in the DNA beyond ok your looks and body ext. we do not know much as much as people think. but i cannot say that our memories can or cannot be found in DNA but i can say however color dye doesn't affect the DNA if you pull DNA from the Tattooed part of you then you'll get your DNA and the dye but still know its you and however, being naturally left handed ( like me) and being able to do things with your right is a learned technique.while we cannot say much about human DNA we know that its a fair chance of humans doing all kinds of things.


also the science in the movie is rather out there but its all for fun and movie
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Postby Xenops » 14 years ago

You seem missunderstand the concept of Deoxyribonucleic acid or (DNA) (i did spell it) DNA is your blueprint and we are not sure what is in the DNA beyond ok your looks and body ext.
Oh dear, I hope I understand the concept because I'm a pre-med major. :) But if memories are stored in DNA, then we should have children that have the memories of their parents, or at least some memories. But agreed, the science is out there, but still a fun movie. I enjoyed the visuals, and I appreciated that they didn't change Astro too much in personality. He is still sweet and considerate, while in the English dubbing of the 2003 series makes him sound like a tough guy. >.<

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Postby AprilSeven » 14 years ago

I'm not saying we get memories from HAIR, but one of my first words was German (Achtung when I wanted, yes, attention) -- my (then) 4-year old brother remarking he missed a ceiling light fixture that had been removed befor my parents met. He then drew a rudimentary, but accurate image of it. :eek:
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Postby Xenops » 14 years ago

my (then) 4-year old brother remarking he missed a ceiling light fixture that had been removed befor my parents met. He then drew a rudimentary, but accurate image of it.


That is strange, I'll admit. :eek:

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Postby jeffbert » 14 years ago

"Xenops" wrote:I haven't read the manga yet, but I would prefer that Astro be a "clean slate", because transferring memories from a biochemical mechanism into a robotic mechanism doesn't make sense, in my mind anyway. But I confess that that story trope offers interesting ideas.

Off topic: Anybody here watch CAPRICA? :lol: It seems this story has a solution, but it does require some preparation. :astro:
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Postby jeffbert » 14 years ago

"F-Man" wrote:[QUOTE=jeffbert;114906][QUOTE=Shirubie;114874]2003 Astro had a few flashbacks and didn't know what they were. When he was reactivated he had no memories at all, didn't even know his name and had to relearn everything.

True, but in a series of cues that cause flashbacks, he eventually recovers memories that Ochanomizu had hoped to have wiped clean.[/QUOTE]

The memories he recovers are of him as a robot living with Tenma though. The only flashbacks I can recall of him being human are the cars coming to crash on him briefly in episode 1, and himself as Tobio heading for his old home and talking with his dad. I'd say those memories look a bit pre-programmed to me.[/QUOTE]
He remembered a 3 legged race against Melmo, in which his adult partner was not Tenma.


IF MEMORIES & HENCE, PERSONALITY WERE stored in DNA,
:p This would have major simplification to the plot of THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL! :p There goes over half of the film. Instant Fuhrers! :d evil:


I think the floating city was a metaphor for the haughtiness of those who lived therein; They considered those on the surface as the lowest of the low class, so much so, that they used the surface as a trash dump. The kids being there implied that their parents had discarded them, though it turned out that they had run away. Hamegg was a bottom-feeder who had adopted them, as though they were only good-enough for him. That they city floated high above the surface implied that those cast upon it were there to stay. :p
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Postby Xenops » 14 years ago

Anybody here watch CAPRICA? It seems this story has a solution, but it does require some preparation.


Oh! That sounds interesting. Where can I watch it? :)

Also, does Ghost in the Shell deal with the idea of human-->robot form? If so, I feel I should watch it for its perspective.

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Postby Astro Boy2866 » 14 years ago

"Astronomical girl" wrote:[QUOTE=Xenops;114949]Hurray! I finally saw the CGI version. I have to agree that the science makes no sense. It said that blue and red core energy came from 1 star, but how would that work if they neutralize each other? While the idea of Astro not realizing he was a robot makes an interesting story, I still can't fathom him getting memories from hair. Memories are unique from the genetic code, or DNA. What information you acquire in life is not stored in DNA. That's like saying if I get a tattoo on one part of my skin, the other skin cells should have the information to make a tattoo. Or being able to write with the right hand and naturally you can write with the left hand just as well.
You seem missunderstand the concept of Deoxyribonucleic acid or (DNA) (i did spell it :p ) DNA is your blueprint and we are not sure what is in the DNA beyond ok your looks and body ext. we do not know much as much as people think. but i cannot say that our memories can or cannot be found in DNA but i can say however color dye doesn't affect the DNA if you pull DNA from the Tattooed part of you then you'll get your DNA and the dye but still know its you and however, being naturally left handed ( like me) and being able to do things with your right is a learned technique.while we cannot say much about human DNA we know that its a fair chance of humans doing all kinds of things. also the science in the movie is rather out there but its all for fun and movie[/QUOTE] You're left handed? Me too :w00t: . Did you know that we are considered to be handicapped since almost everything is made for right handed people. We can get scholarships for being left handed :D

So anyways, you're right, Astronomical. Right now, we don't know every little detail there is to know about DNA or what we can do with it, but since the movie's time was in the future, it might have been possible to get memories from a strand of hair. As for the floating city, even though it would take a lot of energy, they might have developed a smarter way to get energy from nuclear power, without expelling as much waste.
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