short fic: The Kissy Game

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Postby dannavy85 » 20 years ago

ASTROBOY 1980
The kissy kiss game

ASTRO BOY © 1954 Osmau Tezuka © 1980 Tezuka Productions, Japan. All rights respected, for fandom enjoyment only. Please don’t sue me?

P.S. 46
New Shinjuku

Doctor McNugget was scribbling away on an eraser board, his overly exaggerated movements getting chuckles from behind his back. “I don’t hear a lot of writing you kids.” He snorted as he turned around to see the children playing a sudden game of “catch me up” with their pencils. “Ok…Can anyone tell me the importance of the Emperor Maji’s restoration period in a short sentence?” McNugget looked around the room….”Well?”

Megumi stood up and tapped her finger against her cheek…”Increased Sushi Bars?”
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The whole room broke out laughing but McNugget wasn’t impressed. “Very funny…now would someone less amusing care to spin it?”

Astro stood up and started to speak and got a spit-ball off the back of his head. “Aw man we’ll be here for hours!” Albert snorted loudly.

“ALBERT!!! GET IN THE CORNER NOW!!” McNugget screamed. “And just for that you can stay late and clean the classroom.” McNugget huffed and smiled at Astro. “Now Astro…please tell us.”

Astro looked about at the other kids and giggled. “An increase in hostiles for drunk businessmen?”

McNugget frowned deeply…”Get in the corner…you can wash a few cars after school.”

It was an hour later when McNugget walked out into the parking lot to find Astro finishing his tenth hover car. “What’s gotten into you? You never cut up in my class before Astro, I’m disappointed.”

The robot boy leaned against the car and wrung water from his rag. “I just felt like being a little different for once.”

“My classes bore you?” McNugget asked.

“Uh uh!” Astro replied smiling. “I guess you could blame the Professor for it…he told me to do it so I could get you alone.” Astro went to a bush nearby and pulled a box from it. “Happy Birthday Professor!!”

Kids came from all over the place screaming happy birthday to their teacher as he began to tear up. “Oh no! Oh you little brats! “Sob” “sob”….”

Kenichi jumped and cheered as he led the students in a chant to get McNugget to open his gift. He quivered as he pulled out a large leather and wool winter jacket. He turned to grab Astro of his feet and hugged him hard. “You little rascal!!”

“It wasn’t all my idea Doctor…but if you feel like buy us ice cream?”

“I knew there was a catch to this….of course!” McNugget yelled out, leading the kids to the nearest ice cream store.

The Shin-Ferry
Late afternoon

Astro gave his riding ticket to the conductor and boarded the water ferry for the ride across to visit Professor Albert Peabody on Metoji-jima Island. He didn’t have to ride a ferry of course given his rocket legs could get him there faster. It was the ride he enjoyed, the soft sways of the boat, the sound of the water around it and the occasional sea lion or playful bay dolphin intrigued his ever thirsty and inquisitive mind.

He was by himself outside the main passenger cabin calmly standing with his chin resting on the hand-rail. For the moment he had his eyes closed, taking in the external sounds of the air flowing around him.

“Astro?”

The voice, when it hit, caused Astro’s eyes to pop open and freeze. “I knew it…it is you.”

The girl had very long gold hair flowing down her back, her brown eyes caused the boy robot to almost fall backwards as she slowly came up to get a closer look at him. “You look like you’ve seen a ghost. Sorry for the sudden shocking meeting, I was hoping to save it for when I got to the Institute of…”

Astro fell forwards almost knocking the girl off her feet, burying his face into her shoulder and hugging her like a vice. He didn’t say a thing…of course why should he since it was obvious Niki didn’t need the introduction. “Gee….missed you two.”

Astro didn’t know what to think, let alone what to say. His first few times trying to talk left him kicking himself for being overly stupid. How do you finesse three years worth of having other girls fawn over you for one you thought was dead gone? “How?….shoot!”

“Well…it seems that while Doctor Barak went wild with a screwdriver…lucky me that my central processor unit wasn’t attached to the bomb. Besides my legs and feet from what the doctor told me…that’s all that was left of my original body.”

Astro had to restrain a giggle…should he tell Niki what really happened to her legs? “ I guess he made you this new one?” Astro said as he tapped her shoulder.

Niki smiled. “Think my hair’s long enough?”

“I like it.” Astro said smiling back. They walked for a while separated until Niki grabbed Astro’s hand and caused him to jump. “Am I upsetting you?” She asked.

“N…..no…..no! I mean…uh…..”

She giggled. “You’ve always been so cute!”

“Me? I….think you’re cute too.” He replied. If Astro could sweat, he thought, he’d be raining buckets of nerves. The office of Doctor Peabody was a welcome relief from any further self-imposed lunacy.

“So you’re Niki? Welcome! I am so glad that Bazakan allowed you to come here.”

“Allowed?” Niki replied. “Oh no…once I was able to walk I “walked” my way to the boarder and told them what they could do with their stupid rules.”

“You defected?” Astro said smiling. “I bet they’re hopping mad.”

“They’d rather not say anything about it and just let me go. They keep a lot of the A.I. robots there outside word dumb and under control. If my escape became public they’d rebel.”

Doctor Peabody nodded. “Well then we have to set you up with something…school for now and a….Astro, your parents could take Niki in I guess.”

“Eeeep!” Astro jumped and grabbed Peabody y the arm…”Professor can I uh….come here…” Astro pulled Peabody outside the office. “Uh…please take her in, I uh…..”

“Astro? Are you telling me that you?” Peabody smiled. “Of course how obvious.”

“Professor! I’m suffering from short circuit mental confusion and you’re trying to make jokes?”

“This is simply childish Astro. No one’s going to make a big fuss that you love Niki and that it’s a whole new experience for you to try and understand. If it will make you feel better I guess I can take Niki in till we get her settled permanently.”

“Shooo!” Astro blew a sigh of relief. “This love stuff drives you crazy.”

“Oh yes.” Peabody replied. “Just wait till things like gifts and dinners kick in my boy.”

“Huh? It gets worse?”

“Relax Astro…the world will still be here after you faint from your first kiss. It’s all normal.”

New Shinjuku
Atop Akashi Tower

“I’ll be home in an hour mother I promise!” Astro sat tapping his head after his mother had clicked off. “If it’s not one thing, it’s another.” He thought as he looked at the city lights and brooded over his most difficult mission yet…finding Niki a suitable gift that wouldn’t make him a dunce. “Oh man…flowers and candy! Girls go for that!” Kenichi told him. “No way…a teddy bear and a display of your great strength!” Shibusaki said. Astro must have breezed through a dozen or so stores in the Ginza and banged his head against the wall.

“Hmmm…a doll? A big China doll, that’s it…No! A big China doll and the amusement park! Yeah! Yeah….she should like that a lot.”

“Talking to yourself as usual stupid?” came a boyish voice from up over Astro’s head…a voice he’d rather quickly forget. He looked up to see Atlas Boy standing on the base of the tower flag-pole smirking devilishly at him. “You’re up late goody boots…you should be in bed for school tomorrow, a droll human activity I don’t have to partake in thankfully.”

Atlas Boy was Astro’s vile alter ego, the local robotic bully who used to hang around with Skunk until he decided humans and robots were equally stupid creatures in need of his overbearing dominion. He was for all purposes a little pest, an all wind no big bite ankle dog Astro had to kick back into line every few weeks. Now Atlas was on the floor taunting Astro with head pushes and meaningless insults.

“Cut it out!” Astro snorted after a push to the head.

“Make me goody! Come on…let’s fly through the city and have some fun.” Atlas taunted.

“I’m not going to satisfy your cravings Atlas.” Astro snorted as he stood up.

“So tell me? Who’s the cute girl you were walking with huh? Are you getting all lovie dovie Goody red boots? You do wanna die huh?”

Astro snarled back. “None of your business! Keep it up and I’ll put your face where human’s say nothing shines!”

“Wow!” Atlas yelped. “Plastic Tarzan is getting all defensive over Jane! Have you kissed her yet? Huh? Huh? Better sign your Last Will.”

Astro grabbed Atlas and threw him against a wall. “I’ll give you five seconds to bug out before I “bug” you out!”

“Look Astro…As your rival it’s my duty to warn you that if you kiss that girl? You’ll die. You’ll overheat and you’ll explode.”

Astro snorted. “ You’re a jerk Atlas, a little stupid jerk who’s so brainless you have to slap sticker notes to your butt to find your hands.”

“Don’t say I didn’t warn you Astro…You know I got this newspaper here that says in the last 5 months over 167 robots have self-detonated because they can’t handle the feelings that come with kissing. It’s no joke.” Atlas opened up his chest panel and showed Astro the National Exposure. “See…”

Astro looked at the front page then skipped around the article with Atlas looming over his shoulder. “I may not like you pointy head but I don’t want life to become boring because you smootched yourself into a smoking hole. Just think of all the people who’ll be killed because you lost control of your power source.”

Astro look at Atlas stunned. “This is….all real?”

“Duh…you won the lottery prissy bot, care to try for mega-yen now?” Atlas played with Astro’s chin. “I….wouldn’t kiss her if I were you. She’s dangerous.”

“Bye bye Goodie…sorry to rain on your day!” The red boy bot flew off leaving Astro bewildered if not mournful and worried…

“I can’t kiss Niki?! Oh man! This is bad….worse….it’s a nightmare!” Astro kicked his foot into a nearby pipe and felt the collision. “Argh! IT’S NOT A DREAM!” Ugh!…what’ll I do!….” The robot flew off in a word snapping spree of frustration into the night.

Morning…

Astro came down from his room yawning and pulling at his shirt as his mother met him at the bottom with his book bags. “You were up all night again.” She said sternly. “Astro? What did I tell you about staying up all night?”

“I couldn’t sleep mom.” Astro said sluggishly. “And I wasn’t playing any games.”

Mom checked him over and took his books away. “Go back upstairs and lay down, I’ll hook you up to the chill unit and call the Doctor.”

“Mom! I was going to see Niki today! And Mister McNugget will be angry!”

“Mister McNugget doesn’t have a son who spends half his nights doing work I don’t like. He knows he can’t win against me.” Mom pushed Astro back into his bed and hooked up the air conditioner tubes to connections in his chest plate. “Now you lay here and sleep.”

“Mom?” Astro started to ask…”Uh?…can I have some ice cream?”

“Yes…now you better be ready to shut down and sleep after that and don’t give me any trouble ok?”

“Do I ever?” Astro said with a childish loving smile.

“No heroics Astro, even if you get called….stay!”

Just what he wanted, not that it was something he’d deliberately do but at least Astro would have some time to think of how to break the news to Niki. It wasn’t long till his little sister Sally walked in frowning over her big brother’s good fortune. “You’re not going to school?”

“No…I couldn’t sleep.” Astro said back as he played with a stuffed animal. “If you see Kenichi, ask him to bring my homework?”

“Alright.” Sally said back as she walked out. Astro closed his eyes and drifted into a low power sleep.

Afternoon….

The sensation was enough to jolt Astro out of his sleep and send him kicking to a corner of the bed. “Aaaaaaa!!!” He screamed as Niki was leaning over his bed with her lips still puckered.

“Uh…..hi!” Astro said huffing. “Don’t do that!”

“ I didn’t do anything.” Niki replied. “I didn’t think you’d jump like that.”

“Well I uh….You know…I wasn’t feeling to good. Uh…” Astro unplugged the air conditioner lines from his chest and laid back down. “I was running a little hot this morning so…”

Niki patted him on the head. “You poor thing…I missed you too. Feeling better though?” She tried to close in again only to have Astro slip around her and run for his bathroom. “Uh…you….you wouldn’t wanna kiss me or hug me right now….I’m uh….filthy! Yeah….” The sound of the shower inside caused Niki to smirk as she leaned against the door. “I stink Niki…hang on.”

“You didn’t do anything today and you stink? Astro you’re a robot.”

“I still stink.” Astro replied as he contemplated a quick escape out the bathroom window. Problem was…it wasn’t an opening window. He leaped into the shower, grabbed a bottle of baby oil and emptied the whole thing all over himself. “Besides…I’m using a new supple’r for my skin…very toxic, tastes ugly.”

“Ok.” Niki replied. “If you can go out tonight, where can we go?”

“The Ginza.” Astro replied as he came out with a towel over his head. “I’m a ghost! Booooooo!”

“You’re a clown.” Niki said smiling and giggling. “I met your sister Sally…she’s so cute!”

“Cute?” Astro replied. “I didn’t know terrorists were cute.”

“That’s mean!” Niki said as she tried to touch Astro and groaned at the oily feeling. “Eeeewwww…”

“Sorry…” He said as he grabbed some clothes and put them on. “It’ll dry in an hour or so. Come on.” Astro scooped Niki up in his arms. “Better buckle up for turbulence.”

“Very funny. If I didn’t know better I’d think you were trying to avoid something.” Niki said smirking.

“Who me? Uh….telephone poles, they hurt!” Astro snapped quickly.

Otorio Ginza
West Metro City

Astro would get all scatterbrained and giggly as he walked hand in hand with Niki through the various shops and stores of the Ginza. He almost forgot about the kissing threat until they were in a bakery and he’d come within an inch of her lips. Some fast thinking got him out of it but ended up making him sit in an ally when he bashed an angry foot into a wall and herd the not so pleasant sound of metal crunching…

He’d dented the aluminum tip of his right foot.

“Arrrrrghhh THIS SUCKS!” Astro screamed out and then suddenly he covered his mouth at the shock of a cuss word. “Oh…..this is a disaster! I can’t kiss my girl friend! Ugh…maybe….no….” Astro was about to launch a fist into a trashcan when Niki came up behind him.

“Astro? You alright?”

Astro nodded. “ I think I busted my left foot.”

Niki removed the moon boot and sure enough, Astro had crunched his foot. “Uh! We have to get you back! How did you do this?”

“I was upset.” Astro replied. “I got angry and lost my fight with this wall.”

“Ok…mind telling me why you did this?” She asked him. “You’ve been acting dumb all day with me, what’s wrong?”

Astro couldn’t pull a flat out lie on Niki…”I guess it’s because, well…uh….your kiss could upset my inner workings! I have to get my body calibrated for the expected radical changes from the human concepts of love.”

Niki wasn’t convinced. “When you’re ready to stop avoiding me like I was a cold or something….call me.”

“Niki!” Astro ran after her as she stormed off upset. He would just miss her as she walked into a trolley and the doors closed behind her back. “Niki! Nik…. Grrrrrr aw nuts!!” Astro snorted out as he kicked as near by sign.

Evening

Professor Peabody answered the door and found Astro standing outside with a bunch of flowers and a huge teddy bear in his arms. “I guess she must have told you?”

“Briefly…before she slammed her bedroom door on me.” The Professor replied. “What did you do?”

Sighing loudly, Astro flopped on a couch. “I….I’ve been trying to keep her from kissing me.”

“Huh? Why? I know you’re all innocence my boy but a kiss? I thought I told you everything you needed to know.”

“No you didn’t.” Astro replied. “I saw the newspapers this morning, Atlas shoved em in my face. If Niki tries to kiss me I’ll blow up.”

“And you actually took the word of that troublemaking plastic bully? Astro I’m shocked, how could you?”

“But Professor! The National Exposure said that a hundred and fifty robots have blown up in the last month just over a kiss! I don’t want to put anyone in danger!”

Peabody smiled and shook his head. “My dear boy…you’ve just been had. The National Exposure is a two-cent useless news tabloid, they print garbage all the time. You will NOT explode from a kiss.”

Astro scratched his head. “Are you sure?”

Peabody went to Niki’s room and a moment later he and the girl came back out into the living room. Niki smiled from ear to ear, giggled, grabbed Astro by the hands and gave him her usual doe-faced look. “So if I kiss you….you’ll explode?”

Astro wasn’t ready for it, Niki pulled him close to her and laid a kiss square on his lips! It seemed to last for eternity until she pulled back…

The Professor had to cover his face to hold the laughter, Astro looked as if he was suddenly drunk.

“I….I didn’t explode….I’m gonna kill Atlas…” Astro smiled then fainted as the shock of being kissed forced all his systems to re-boot.

Tokyo Hands Store

Astro finished clipping the neck lass around Niki’s neck. “I thought this would be the best gift I could find for you…”

“It’s wonderful!” She replied giggling as she hugged the boy bot tightly. “I’m so happy to be with you again. By the way, what about this Atlas Boy you said told you not to kiss me? You….really didn’t harm him did you?”

“Nah…I just gave him a taste of his own experience…found him a girlfriend who enjoys Peanut Butter.”

Atlas was a mile away. Handcuffed to a steel eye beam, kicking and screaming, his face covered with Peanut Butter and a Saint Bernard enjoying Astro’s free gift.

“ONE OF THESE DAYS YOU STUPID MOON BOOTED DORK I’LL HAVE MY REVENGE ON YOU MARK MY WORDS ASTRO BOY YOU’LL REGRET THE DAY YOU DID THIS TO ME WAAAAAAAAHHHH STOP LICKING ME YOU DUMB MUTT WAAAAAAHHH!!!!”

The end
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Postby Dragonrider1227 » 20 years ago

:lol: That's a great story. Too bad this will never be animated. I'd love to see Astro avoiding Niki's kiss. I'd also love to see him getting that kiss. There's something excedingly cute about it.^_^

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Postby jeffbert » 20 years ago

I liked your story. Several errors, though.

First you used 'to' when you obviously should have used 'too' in one place near the end.

Second, at the end: " steel eye beam"

Probably should be "steel I-beam[/b].

Also, I noted what I thought was an inconsistent use of Japanese names. Most of the names were English, except, as I recall, Kenichi. It just seemed a bit, not so much strange, just noticable. But "Atlas Boy" seemed really strange. :lol:
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Postby Danny » 20 years ago

Yeah, there were a few "editing" issues with the story, but who cares? It was a really plesant read and I believe it captured the spirit and feel of the 80's Astro series really well.

I have to ask tho.. Who is "Sally"? Is that Uran? And if it is, when was "Sally" used instead of Uran? Or is there a second sister I have never heard of?
three and a half years.. for what?

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Postby dannavy85 » 20 years ago

Sally was the short lived American version of the 80's Astro boy, only shown on a few stations for 12 or 13 episodes...

And...if I wanted anything corrected by anyone? I would go back to high school.
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Postby dannavy85 » 20 years ago

But "Atlas Boy" seemed really strange.

Take your pick, you have the pilot episodes Atlas and then the grown Atlas. I just use the "boy" to differ between the two.
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Postby tic_tac_astro » 20 years ago

:lol: Pretty good story. Instead of a happy or sad ending, it had a pretty funny ending.
I also had in mind of making a story of my own too. B)

Keep up the good work on typing stories. :)
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Postby jeffbert » 20 years ago

Originally posted by dannavy85@Nov 26 2004, 12:33 PM
Sally was the short lived American version of the 80's Astro boy, only shown on a few stations for 12 or 13 episodes...

And...if I wanted anything corrected by anyone? I would go back to high school.


"And...if I wanted anything corrected by anyone? I would go back to high school."

If you cannot take criticisms, do not post. I shall critique anybody's posts, as I feel the urge to do so; likewise, I expect others will critique my posts, as they have done. However, my purpose in critiquing your work was not to diminish your self esteem, it was to make you aware of those errors, one of which (I assume) was a simple typographical error, unless you really do not know the difference between 'to' & 'too'.

I, unlike you, will never make a critique of another person's post only to close by stating that "I'll stop posting on this thread… ignorance and bigotry is getting to deep" (again using 'to' instead of 'too' ;) because I, unlike you, am not afraid to defend my positions. What's more, I will not, for lack of substance, call people names, as you have done on several occasions. I do not need to do so, because I have enough knowledge to defeat their arguments using arguments of my own. I prefer to calmly discuss the difference of opinion, using the facts as I know them, and allowing that I do not know everything, I am open to differing opinions when they are properly supported by evidence. If someone should hold a different opinion, perhaps based on some facts, but ignorant of others, I will politely state the facts. You, on the other hand, throw insults at them, because you lack the civility to engage in polite discussion. So offended are you, that anybody could think such as they do, that you obviously become too emotional to think clearly; thus, you resort to insults rather than substance. Then you further insult them by refusing to reply to their latest posts. Your military career aside, your actions on this forum are cowardly.
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I expect you will respond, if at all, by calling me 'boy' or some other insulting term, rather than politely.
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Postby dannavy85 » 20 years ago

If you cannot take criticisms, do not post.

I find such self-professed English teachers detramental, especially for people who might be trying their first few stories. Not everyone is an "English school textbook Jedi" and professes to be such an expert. Comebacks like yours tend to drive new people from further attempts. If I want "your" English 101 complaints, I'll ask them in the future, otherwise, comment on the story and keep the ruler swinging English teacher side of you to yourself.
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Postby jeffbert » 20 years ago

Originally posted by dannavy85+Nov 26 2004, 10:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dannavy85 @ Nov 26 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>[i]If you cannot take criticisms, do not post.

I find such self-professed English teachers detramental, especially for people who might be trying their first few stories. Not everyone is an "English school textbook Jedi" and professes to be such an expert. Comebacks like yours tend to drive new people from further attempts. If I want "your" English 101 complaints, I'll ask them in the future, otherwise, comment on the story and keep the ruler swinging English teacher side of you to yourself.[/b]


I reserve the right to comment on anything I choose, and acknowledge the same right belongs to others. Note that my initial critique was not given in harsh or demeaning terms, but, rather, in a genuine attempt to be helpful. You, however, responded to it as though it were an attack on you. I intended no such thing.

I well know that typos are often hard to catch, & require rereading material that the writer would rather not reread. I have written plenty of term papers, and after inspecting them for typos & such, several times, grew weary of further inspection. Perhaps I was setting a level of performance that was too high to be practical.

However, when someone submits a story as you have, without mentioning anything about his unwillingness to receive critique thereupon, he must surely expect that he has left open the possibility that he might receive some. Rather than politely acknowledging the critiques, you responded aggressively. I responded likewise, because you made it clear that you were unfriendly.

I find such self-professed English teachers detramental, especially for people who might be trying their first few stories. Not everyone is an "English school textbook Jedi" and professes to be such an expert. Comebacks like yours tend to drive new people from further attempts.

In addressing your response, I would generalize it thus:

"I find such self-professed experts detrimental, especially for people who might be trying their first few stories. Not everyone is an expert and professes to be so. Comebacks like yours tend to drive new people from further attempts." Thus, " self-professed English teachers" can be generalized as any self-professed expert.

You poor baby. Did I hurt your feelings? Did my remarks that were clearly intended to be helpful rather than insulting, make you cry? Here is your out of context quote of my own post followed by a few of your very insulting remarks:

Originally posted by -dannavy85@Aug 30 2004, 09:48 AM
Whites have done some very nasty things, but tend to forget them (which is a tendancy not unique to Whites, though)

Let me remind you of something "college boy", obviously you've sat too long in that Ivy league chair of yours…

Better keep your horse blinder racist thoughts to yourself before you go off on an idiot tangent...."college boy"

sorry people, I hate ignorants


Do not tell me about my driving people away with my polite and reasonable responses, while you respond to other people's posts in highly insulting terms. And, you being too chicken to stick around and discuss the matter, closed with: "you're it, I quit" & ran away from a discussion that I tried to keep alive. I really wanted to calmly discuss this with you, even though it was quite obvious that you had been offended by a single sentence of mine, which, had you considered the context in which it was written, you might not have been so hasty to find fault. Here is the first sentence of my paragraph you have so poorly quoted:

Originally posted by -jeffbert@Aug 22 2004, 06:41 PM
I do not claim to be an authority on American history; however, I have studied the subject in college.

Followed immediately by:
Originally posted by -jeffbert@Aug 22 2004, 06:41 PM
Regarding the contaminated blankets, my source is the History Channel; yet, I might still be recalling the facts incorrectly. Nevertheless, my point stands: [b]Whites have done some very nasty things, but tend to forget them (which is a tendancy not unique to Whites, though), & instead find fault with others who do much the same things. & as I stated, the former's guilt in no way relieves the latter of guilt. B) It is not as though I am trying to judge history of America or Europe as though it were done by one person, who atrocities in the 19th century should not be forgotten in the 21st. I merely hoped my comments would provoke some thought among the readers; thought that, most nations have some things they would rather forget, but pointing the finger at those who have done likewise in recent times seems hypocritical if they do not at the same time admit that their progenitors also used force of arms to violently take from others what they wanted for themselves. Moreover, adding to this, I would say that then & now, those who committed such acts found some moral justification for them. Whether twisting the sacred texts to find some unlikely interpretation that makes the victims less than human, other than one's neighbors, so they would not be required to love them in any sense of the word, or whatever, those among the oppressors whose consciences were offended at the oppression, salved their consciences with lies.[/b]


With the portion that so offended you in bold font. Anyone can & should see that you have taken my words out of context. Having done so, you then proceeded to list examples of historical events that you thought proved me wrong. However, if you had bothered to read what I said in its entirety, you would have seen that I was not making the case that whites alone had committed atrocities rather that nearly all nations had done so sometime in history & we ought to remember that.

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You claim that your experience was godlike in that you can authoritatively state such & such is the case. You are the self-proclaimed expert. Perhaps you cannot see the forest for the trees. Do I need to explain the meaning? Your specific experiences cannot logically be generalized from the members to the whole set. You are the ignoramus, not I. I have sufficient knowledge to know the limits of my knowledge, & to state so when I post. You fail to see those limits that I clearly stated. Moreover, you make it a point to insult me; yet, you think I am the one who offends. ;) Perhaps you do need to return to high school, as it seems clear that you have been poorly educated. ;) If you think me your enemy, it is only because you have made yourself my enemy, perhaps, I should say antagonist rather than enemy. I really try to be friendly toward all members hare, even when we differ in opinion. But, no one other than you has been so insulting. I know you were likewise insulting to another member, but as the insult involved the word 'boy' & since this is the Astroboy forum, I deemed it searching for a needle in a haystack to attempt to find that other incident. You could be more friendly, but then, maybe you prefer to be an antisocial. I have had many arguments with cybotron, yet none have seen the use of such unjustified name-calling. I really do not care whether you become enraged or not, you are a hypocryte, & I dislike you because of that fact.
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