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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:16 pm
by jeffbert
There is one that was a cheap trick to make the English version have "50 episodes," but Dawn of the Techo Revolution was an English-made recap episode to substitute for the Peter Pan episode that was axed! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:04 am
by jeffbert
Here is my table of titles and sequences. Note that it still needs some work. :D

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:01 am
by Atoman
Thanks for the episode list Jeffbert. Now everyone can see just how out of order America showed it, evan on dvd.

Not only that, but there is no Peter Pan/Wheelchair episode. Jeffbert reminded me that Disney owns the rights to Peter Pan, so Tezuka Prod. having been wounded once before by The Micheal Eisner Company, who ripped off Kimba the White Lion :angry: , probably didn't want a law suit or to have to play royalties, so evan though they showed it in Japan, the Americans made up a lame episode to replace it in the states, in which Tenma convinces robots through flashbacks that Astro's ready to be the robot king. <_< Lame!

They ruined a beautiful work of Japanese art.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:56 pm
by DrFrag
I was wondering what episode 20 was called. In Australia they were shown in the Japanese order, but the 20th episode was the recap episode and didn't have an episode name in the closing credits.

Thanks for the info, Jeffbert. B)

Do you know why Eternal Boy/Peter Pan was axed?

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:39 pm
by Atoman
As I said, Jeffbert and I think Eternal Boy might have been axed for legal reasons, because Disney owns the rights to Peter Pan. The whole story was based on Peter Pan and it had a robot Peter Pan in it and of course Peter's name was mentioned throughout the episode. Since they already showed it in Japan, they probably had enough royalties or law suits to pay. Damn Micheal Eisner. <_<

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:02 pm
by jeffbert
It would be nice if somebody who worked on it would post. :P

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:09 pm
by dannavy85
No love for Disney, new or old. They still live and exhibit a plastic and fake view of the real world, their amusement parks are money-sucking garbage. Did you know Tezuka refered to them when he was asked to ok an idea for a Tezuka Amusement Park? He rejected it.

Nice but what can it teach? Nothing. That's why you have the Tezuka Library, which actually teaches and entertains.

As for Eisner, they need to give him a one way trip ticket on the E express to hell.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:57 pm
by Strange Wings
Originally posted by Atoman@Apr 2 2005, 05:39 PM
As I said, Jeffbert and I think Eternal Boy might have been axed for legal reasons, because Disney owns the rights to Peter Pan. The whole story was based on Peter Pan and it had a robot Peter Pan in it and of course Peter's name was mentioned throughout the episode. Since they already showed it in Japan, they probably had enough royalties or law suits to pay. Damn Micheal Eisner. <_<

:huh: Given that case, it makes me wonder why the 80's ep 'Frankenstein' wasn't axed as well. The name of Frankenstein might be protected by copyright same as it is for Peter Pan, or were those circumstances from different kind back then? :unsure:

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:06 pm
by fafner
Originally posted by Strange Wings@Apr 2 2005, 10:57 PM
:huh: Given that case, it makes me wonder why the 80's ep '[b]Frankenstein' wasn't axed as well. The name of Frankenstein might be protected by copyright same as it is for Peter Pan, or were those circumstances from different kind back then? :unsure: [/b]

Maybe because Disney Corp. is known to grip copyrights more firmly than other copyright holders, legitimally or not. Mickey's copyrights are still held by them even though they should be in public domain since a very long time. No one wants to challenge them on this, maybe there would be a chance to win after throwing away a few multizillions of bucks :wacko: It must be the same thing with Peter Pan. And to my knowledge, Disney has no copyrights on Frankenstein.
More on Mickey's copyrights: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey#Copyright_issues

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:05 pm
by Atoman
Can you imagine if Tezuka Productions tried to open one of their museums in the States?
Disney would use all kinds of legal tricks to block it. <_< If they did open a museum or just a store here, I would go there evan if it was across the country. ;)