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When Atom's morals and standards are putted into a test?

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm
by Toshio
Imagine this:
Atom deal with a robot who despite being able to have a mind of own is yet unable to feel remorse or sadness which lead that robot to commit murder and mass destruction.
What Atom should do?
Kill his enemy or disable it to be arrasted and disassembled by the human justice?
Do you think that stories which put Atom's morals and standards into a test bring a good character development?

In note: I'm talking about modern versions of the character who may think that killing other robots is wrong as killing human beings.
And I do know that older versions of the character were forced to kill enemy robots, regardless if they had a mind.
I don't count the Playstation 2 version of Tetsuwan Atom which was a deconstruction of the 2003 series.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:53 pm
by Fuzzy Pickles!
What Atom would do is disable the robot to get it disassembled. He's going to try to not kill if possible.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:32 am
by Toshio
"astarisborn94" wrote:What Atom would do is disable the robot to get it disassembled. He's going to try to not kill if possible.


In my story, Atom choose to not kill and wanted that robot to be upgrated so it would able of having real feelings.

But, the enemy had a trump card.

There are other ways to put Atom morals and standards into a test, any ideas?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:10 am
by Fuzzy Pickles!
"Toshio" wrote:
"astarisborn94" wrote:What Atom would do is disable the robot to get it disassembled. He's going to try to not kill if possible.


In my story, Atom choose to not kill and wanted that robot to be upgrated so it would able of having real feelings.

But, the enemy had a trump card.

There are other ways to put Atom morals and standards into a test, any ideas?
Here's one:

Atom is trapped in a situation where he must commit crime to save his friends and there is no way around it. Should he commit the crime to save his friends or not go against his nature and let them die?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:37 am
by Toshio
"astarisborn94" wrote:
"Toshio" wrote:
"astarisborn94" wrote:What Atom would do is disable the robot to get it disassembled. He's going to try to not kill if possible.


In my story, Atom choose to not kill and wanted that robot to be upgrated so it would able of having real feelings.

But, the enemy had a trump card.

There are other ways to put Atom morals and standards into a test, any ideas?
Here's one:

Atom is trapped in a situation where he must commit crime to save his friends and there is no way around it. Should he commit the crime to save his friends or not go against his nature and let them die?


It remembers of the case of the Teen Titans cartoon which Robin was blackmailed to commit crimes, because his friends got infected with killer nano machines by Slade.
You've gave pretty interesting scenario^^

Btw, check "When Uran Falls in Love"
Hope you like Atom's determination in that story, though it almost costed him.

Also, another way to put Atom's morals and standards is making him deal with a brainwashed Uran.

In that case, Uran would be possessed by a hairband which could not be removed easily and the enemy wish to force her to cause mass destruction since Atom cannot just kill his dear sister.

But, there is something important, even that device cannot fully control Uran's feelings, so it's up to Atom make her get free.

And yes, we had something like that in the episode 37 with the exception that Uran's headband could not be easilly removed in that new scenario.

Other way to put Atom morals and standards is when he learn of a brother who often teases and play pranks in his little sister without caring about her feelings, so is up to him show with his experience that is not how a big brother should be.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:21 pm
by jeffbert
"astarisborn94" wrote:
"Toshio" wrote:
"astarisborn94" wrote:What Atom would do is disable the robot to get it disassembled. He's going to try to not kill if possible.


In my story, Atom choose to not kill and wanted that robot to be upgrated so it would able of having real feelings.

But, the enemy had a trump card.

There are other ways to put Atom morals and standards into a test, any ideas?
Here's one:

Atom is trapped in a situation where he must commit crime to save his friends and there is no way around it. Should he commit the crime to save his friends or not go against his nature and let them die?

The SEA SERPENT ISLAND story explores this situation, as Atom must choose between obeying article 9 of the robot law (which forbids robots to go abroad without authorization), & going to rescue whoever wrote the message in the bottle. BTW, the penalty for violating this law is death.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:42 am
by Toshio
Atom should have more smart and talked about the issue which he had earlier.
He almost got destroyed.

Also I found pointless for them making that amazoness being able to behead him.

The correct would be that blade getting broken in the result.

Come on, he even fought robots with 1.000.000 horsepower and 2.000.000 horsepower O_O

Pluto was even having a hard work at trying to rip off Atom's limbs when he got the chance (he relented, but you could notice his effort anyway).

And that girl should not be able to behead him.

Another pointless thing was Atom pretending to be dead and hidding it from the girl.

Come on, he have notoriety so anyone could tell that he was still attending school anyway.

Another inconsistency was the fact his brain unit was meant to be in the head.

They did a retcon and his brain unit was in the chest like the Goliath.

Back in topic, there other ways to test Atom's morals and standards...

Like discovering that somebody is cheating in something like sports without nobody else knowing.

So, it would up to him denounce the cheater or talk the cheater about it and try make him repent for what he did.

We got something similar in the episode Micro Bear, right?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:53 am
by jeffbert
I said nothing about the episode except that it was the type of conflict under discussion. I agree with the beheading being inconsistent. :ninja:

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:41 pm
by dannavy85
In my stories, you have the 1980's Atlas Boy hating humans because of the harsh treatment he got living with Skunk so he becomes an all out terrorist pain in the butt to Metro City. He doesn't hurt anyone but he causes a ton of material property destruction.

Being like Astro and equally educated, Astro spends a great amount of time and effort trying to get Atlas to see reason, which often ends up in rivalry, arguments, fist fights and mutual assured broken parts.