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Postby Fauna » 14 years ago

"Dr. Jerk" wrote:[QUOTE=atoms_gf;117997]or..the moon will dispart more away from the earth and the another ica age will come *shudder*


Let's not expect the worst here.[/QUOTE]

Besides, everybody knows Dr. Wily will be responsible for pulling the moon out of its orbit.

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Postby jeffbert » 14 years ago

Just before 1000 AD, there was a doomsday scare. In the early 1840s a guy developed theories 1 after the other that predicted the exact day of the END. When the 1st date failed he immediately issued a later date. One would think that when the first date came & went without event, few would care to hear his updated prediction. But even more people did than the 1st time. He gave the fundamentalists the DISPENSATIONALISM theories that then became popular.

Who remembers the Hale bop comet incident?

I was a fundamentalist for 20 years, & without naming any specific denomination, we laughed in 1988 when a guy published a booklet "88 reasons why" the end will come in 1988, because we believed that there would be no way to know exactly when the END would come. Then the very next year, this was immediately followed by "89 reasons--". I suppose he sold, rather than gave away the booklets, & if that is so, then he may have become wealthy at the expense of those whom he frightened into buying them. I little doubt there will be more similar predictions of the END in years to come. I can state that this is nothing more than a passing fad.

Here is a site I briefly examined: http://blastr.com/2009/11/2012-15-doomsday-propheci.php

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The thing is that we hate uncertainty; anyone who professes a certainty will almost surely have followers, even if that certainty is unpleasant. :p The sheer number of ways of forcasting of predicting the future make this clear. I think that every nonscientific culture has had its prophets, its techniques, whether using astrology or animal entrails, or whatever, gave a somewhat 'scientific' read that pseudoscientific basis to these predictions. Looking for clues in sacred texts likewise assures the suckers that the guy is not just making it up. :D
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Postby Dr. Jerk » 14 years ago

"Fauna" wrote:[QUOTE=Dr. Jerk;118004][QUOTE=atoms_gf;117997]or..the moon will dispart more away from the earth and the another ica age will come *shudder*


Let's not expect the worst here.[/QUOTE]

Besides, everybody knows Dr. Wily will be responsible for pulling the moon out of its orbit.

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Postby Ghost » 14 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:Just before 1000 AD, there was a doomsday scare. In the early 1840s a guy developed theories 1 after the other that predicted the exact day of the END. When the 1st date failed he immediately issued a later date. One would think that when the first date came & went without event, few would care to hear his updated prediction. But even more people did than the 1st time. He gave the fundamentalists the DISPENSATIONALISM theories that then became popular.

Who remembers the Hale bop comet incident?

I was a fundamentalist for 20 years, & without naming any specific denomination, we laughed in 1988 when a guy published a booklet "88 reasons why" the end will come in 1988, because we believed that there would be no way to know exactly when the END would come. Then the very next year, this was immediately followed by "89 reasons--". I suppose he sold, rather than gave away the booklets, & if that is so, then he may have become wealthy at the expense of those whom he frightened into buying them. I little doubt there will be more similar predictions of the END in years to come. I can state that this is nothing more than a passing fad.

Here is a site I briefly examined: http://blastr.com/2009/11/2012-15-doomsday-propheci.php

:d evil:

The thing is that we hate uncertainty; anyone who professes a certainty will almost surely have followers, even if that certainty is unpleasant. :p The sheer number of ways of forcasting of predicting the future make this clear. I think that every nonscientific culture has had its prophets, its techniques, whether using astrology or animal entrails, or whatever, gave a somewhat 'scientific' read that pseudoscientific basis to these predictions. Looking for clues in sacred texts likewise assures the suckers that the guy is not just making it up. :D


Thanks Jeffbert for providing that link. This proves how many false predictions of 'the end' there are. So what exactly makes the 2012 prediction true? People out there will be believe anything, hell for all we know the world could end tomorrow we don't know. We probably will never know, but over all I agree. I'm not concerned about the end of the apocalypse happening by the end of next year; what concerns me are the people that actually think that the world will end. I'm hoping that the number will be very small by that time.

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Postby Astro Forever » 14 years ago

I also told myself earlier today that the Mayan calendar could not be infinite. It had to stop somewhere, whether that was in 1825, in 2011 or in 2789! Why would we even need a reason to explain why the calendar stopped?

In any case, I will write the one thing I am sure of: someday, I will die!

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Postby Dr. Jerk » 14 years ago

"GhostATR" wrote:I'm not concerned about the end of the apocalypse happening by the end of next year; what concerns me are the people that actually think that the world will end.


Wait, I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you're not concerned about the rumors ending, or about the world itself?

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Postby Ghost » 14 years ago

"Dr. Jerk" wrote:Wait, I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you're not concerned about the rumors ending, or about the world itself?


Well I think that people should care more about the environment if that's what you're asking.

I am not concerned about the rumors of the world ending in 2012. What I am concerned about in this topic are people that believe that the world will end in 2012.

As I said in a previous post, I'm concerned if those people are going to spread their beliefs of this to other people. The worst possible thing that I think that could happen (other than the world ending) is people rioting, looting and throwing rocks into windows.

That is what concerns me. Biggest threat we are facing right now currently is ignorance.

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Postby Astro Forever » 14 years ago

"GhostATR" wrote:As I said in a previous post, I'm concerned if those people are going to spread their beliefs of this to other people. The worst possible thing that I think that could happen (other than the world ending) is people rioting, looting and throwing rocks into windows.

In the big city near my home, some people are doing just that when the professional hockey team manages to win in a play-off series. :rolleyes: Mind you, this isn't because they are hockey fans, but just because they want to cause trouble and they know there will be a gathering, so they use that opportunity; unfortunately, the police has mismanaged those things in the past and for some people, it is now an habit and it is hard to break.

I digress a bit but what I mean is that for it to happen, you need people to expect a gathering at a specific place. Otherwise, they will expect that the police will be after them, which is more difficult when there are a lot of people. And if such a gathering has to occur, the police will know about it and will be there, so hopefully it will deter them.

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Postby Astro Boy2866 » 14 years ago

There is also a theory that the sun will have a solar flare(s) that will be heading in our direction and if strong enough, it could pass through the planet and **** it up entirely along with us, but I doubt that would happen.

If enough people believe that the world will end then some will think that since they'll die soon, they should do some crazy stuff, like destroying property, robbery, treason, car chase with the police, hijacking a plane, or even murder :eek: and those are the type of people to worry about.
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Postby fafner » 14 years ago

I have already said it somewhere, but there is no harm to say it again. The most "credible" explanation about why the world will end in 2012 is the so-called "galactic alignment". It is said it will focus a beam of gamma rays to the Earth and fry everything remotly looking like a life form. This might just be true... except that the beam isn't so much focused, and because of that we have already mostly entered it more than 2 years ago, and last time I checked we haven't fried yet. *checks again* Nope, not yet :p

About solar flares, we took really strong ones in the face during the recent years, and the worst they did was wreaking havoc with satellites hardware, causing various temporary malfunctions and reboots. Most of the satellites are still operational, and the world is too. Well, sort of :p

A few years ago, we might have experienced what could really have been the end of the world, when a star about 50 000 light years from us went super-nova. Like strong solar flares, it caused some disturbances in the satellites, but should had it been "only" 40 000 light years away, we would have been all dead as the gamma shockwave would have vaporated our atmosphere :eek: This one however wasn't predicted, and why should have it been, since it wasn't the end of the world either ;) And to avoid any ill-prophetized end-of-the-world occurrences based on this story, scientists have checked that there is no such soon-to-explode star in our vicinities (but the Nemesis doomsday scenario will probably continue to roam around).

Anyway, I guess that GhostATR is right: ignorance is what appears to be the most dangerous in this story...
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