The Rant/Complaint Thread >:C

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That's why I mostly depend on Nintendo and Sega. You hardly ever hear of Capcom releasing video games and or new titles anymore. (Also, they never made a system. At least I don't think so.)

I mostly love sega because of Sonic the hedgehog and Hatsune Miku. Also the fact that they help create some of the Astro boy and Black Jack games. Though, some sega games can be referred to as "Poorly funded", but that dosen't literally mean that the game is bad. It dosen't even matter about graphics of a game for that matter. It matters if the game is fun and enjoyable to you or not. Also, Sega's systems were amazing for being released back in the 90s. Dreamcast even had it's own online store!

I like Nintendo because they are basically what started Video games to become soo big. Also because I dig most Nintendo games like Mario Bros,Zelda,Kid Icarus,Kirby, and Pokemon more than I dig sega games. Also, Nintendo has some great systems like N64 and Gamecube. The Nintendo Wii was great as well.

Capcom's ok though. They created a few games I play like Megaman and some of the legend of zelda series. I guess, they are losing profit and the company is not real well known these days like it was back in the day. Though, Megaman is going to be in the new Super Smash bros. game as a playable character, so that means that Capcom is trying to get out of they're deep hole. So they're doing alright for now.

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Can you summarize that rant, astarisborn94? I am not into gaming, & as such, it is way too much to read! I might offer empathy if you cut to the chase.

[Earthshine]

You've just explained in great detail almost every single woe I have for the modern gaming industry. I too am an avid gamer, having been born in the late 80s and being a 90s child games have been crucial to my life. What was once a 'hobby' for the 'nerdy' and exclusive for a small amount of the population is now mainstream - which is both good and bad.

With mainstreaming game developers and companies instead of appealing to the 'gamers' now have to appeal to the population as a whole. This allows for a lot of games to be made however much of them to older gamers from the 90s and earlier 2000s seem petty, frivolous, easy and not to mention downright dumb.

Of course that's not to say all games are treated as such but it's a trend none the less.

The way how gaming companies are treating its consumers and fans is something that pressed on my mind heavily to the point of tasking me. I too am a HUGE Megaman fan and was hurt and felt betrayed when not just one but two games were cancelled recently.

I really think that I can't possibly agree with you any more than I do right now. The whole issue with the Xbox One really made me feel twitchy. I myself don't have reliable internet access at my home (I have to loop onto the school's free wifi across the street which at that distance makes it slow, slower than dial-up). It makes no sense to have even designed a system that way and I truly do hope that with the backlash they received they will keep in mind that the population can't and won't stand for it.

Not everyone has reliable internet at home, not everyone WANTS the internet either. One major reason why we don't have internet at my house is because one of our family members is a recovering internet addict, so having it available constantly would really be detrimental to their recovery.

But as for the gaming industry as it is ignoring the bad choices, games, policy and design I'm not sure if I want to totally disregard it. There are some games that I truly do love that have come out recently and they were created by people that really have nothing to do with the decisions being made by those at the top. I found myself really fond of their work, their writing and their respect for their gamers and fans. Of course they found themselves limited by those at the top, that's simply unavoidable but I think I WANT to support these people still.

It's sort of like being in a 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' situation. If you don't support games made by people that are genuinely great for the gaming industry as a whole then they fizzle out and are replaced by those that are causing the main problems, but if you do support them then those at the top still get the gravy and make poor decisions.

[Fuzzy Pickles!]

That's why I mostly depend on Nintendo and Sega. You hardly ever hear of Capcom releasing video games and or new titles anymore. (Also, they never made a system. At least I don't think so.)

I mostly love sega because of Sonic the hedgehog and Hatsune Miku. Also the fact that they help create some of the Astro boy and Black Jack games. Though, some sega games can be referred to as "Poorly funded", but that dosen't literally mean that the game is bad. It dosen't even matter about graphics of a game for that matter. It matters if the game is fun and enjoyable to you or not. Also, Sega's systems were amazing for being released back in the 90s. Dreamcast even had it's own online store!

I like Nintendo because they are basically what started Video games to become soo big. Also because I dig most Nintendo games like Mario Bros,Zelda,Kid Icarus,Kirby, and Pokemon more than I dig sega games. Also, Nintendo has some great systems like N64 and Gamecube. The Nintendo Wii was great as well.

Capcom's ok though. They created a few games I play like Megaman and some of the legend of zelda series. I guess, they are losing profit and the company is not real well known these days like it was back in the day. Though, Megaman is going to be in the new Super Smash bros. game as a playable character, so that means that Capcom is trying to get out of they're deep hole. So they're doing alright for now.

I'd be careful with Sega. Like other video game companies, Sega also does shady practices. I'd suggest avoiding games from them that contains micro-transaction/on-disc DLC/other bad practices.

Capcom's assets are good and they have virtually no debt. Financially, they should be fine. That's not saying a lot for gamers, though.

Capcom still release games on a frequent basis. Where I do have problems with Capcom is the fact that the games aren't up to the standards that they used to be. Many of their games are going on mobile phone and out of their upcoming games, the only interesting games for 2014 looks to be Strider HD and Ultra Street Fighter IV. The rest of their games either engage in bad practices (there's no guarantee that either Strider or Street Fighter won't have them) or as I said before, are mobile games. Capcom has disappointed me (and millions of other gamers) so much over the past few years that I ended up stop buying games from them (and a few interesting games aren't enough to change that). Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U could very well be the last time I ever spend money on them.

Can you summarize that rant, astarisborn94? I am not into gaming, & as such, it is way too much to read! I might offer empathy if you cut to the chase.

As a huge gamer, I hate the direction the video game industry is going into. Today's game industry engage in various bad practices like on-disc DLC, micro-transaction and intrusive DRMs with no sign of stopping. What worse, gamers keep tolerating and defending these horrible practice, which results in these said companies doing these practice to continue to push forward and even introduce more bad practices to the game industry. Having been disappointed so much over the past few years in the game industry and with the many, many great retro games that should keep me satisfied for a long time, I have made up my mind that I will not be following the game industry after the 3DS & Wii U are off the market in a few years and going all retro.

That's the summary of my rant. It would actually be longer if I was trying to be "academic" about it instead of just needing to vent.

You've just explained in great detail almost every single woe I have for the modern gaming industry. I too am an avid gamer, having been born in the late 80s and being a 90s child games have been crucial to my life. What was once a 'hobby' for the 'nerdy' and exclusive for a small amount of the population is now mainstream - which is both good and bad.

With mainstreaming game developers and companies instead of appealing to the 'gamers' now have to appeal to the population as a whole. This allows for a lot of games to be made however much of them to older gamers from the 90s and earlier 2000s seem petty, frivolous, easy and not to mention downright dumb.

Of course that's not to say all games are treated as such but it's a trend none the less.

The way how gaming companies are treating its consumers and fans is something that pressed on my mind heavily to the point of tasking me. I too am a HUGE Megaman fan and was hurt and felt betrayed when not just one but two games were cancelled recently.

I really think that I can't possibly agree with you any more than I do right now. The whole issue with the Xbox One really made me feel twitchy. I myself don't have reliable internet access at my home (I have to loop onto the school's free wifi across the street which at that distance makes it slow, slower than dial-up). It makes no sense to have even designed a system that way and I truly do hope that with the backlash they received they will keep in mind that the population can't and won't stand for it.

Not everyone has reliable internet at home, not everyone WANTS the internet either. One major reason why we don't have internet at my house is because one of our family members is a recovering internet addict, so having it available constantly would really be detrimental to their recovery.

But as for the gaming industry as it is ignoring the bad choices, games, policy and design I'm not sure if I want to totally disregard it. There are some games that I truly do love that have come out recently and they were created by people that really have nothing to do with the decisions being made by those at the top. I found myself really fond of their work, their writing and their respect for their gamers and fans. Of course they found themselves limited by those at the top, that's simply unavoidable but I think I WANT to support these people still.

It's sort of like being in a 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' situation. If you don't support games made by people that are genuinely great for the gaming industry as a whole then they fizzle out and are replaced by those that are causing the main problems, but if you do support them then those at the top still get the gravy and make poor decisions.

I'm glad there are people in this world this realize just how bad a DRM future is for console. No matter what people think, all DRM for consoles does is limit the potential audience and allow companies to have frighteningly high amount of control over a game or console. In a DRM future, gamers don't own their consoles or games and these consoles and games have expiration dates, meaning that some games may be lost forever. DRM also affects everyone, not just people without Internet. I remember last year that a lightning strike hit my home and destroyed my family's Internet. That meant that for a few days, we could not access the Internet as we had to get a new Internet connection going to get back on the Internet.

The good thing about video game consoles is that they can be played without use for an Internet connection. Let's say that I did get a Xbox One with the twenty-four hours DRMs policy? I wouldn't be able to play it and that should not be the case (no I didn't get a Xbox One and I never will).

This is why I don't support any form of DRMs for home consoles. Gamers ultimately lose.

As for why I'm planning on going all retro, while I am aware that there are plenty of good games being made, the issue is not just my problems with today's industry, but that there eventually comes a point where I have to move on from whining about the game industry. I don't want to have to worry about if a game has micro-transaction/on-disc DLC/DRMs/whatever bad stuff the game has. All I want to do is to play a fun, completed game and if that is so hard for companies to understand that, then I have better things to do than to face disappointment on a weekly basis and to whine about bad news in the game industry. It's this toxicity that has been unproductive in my life and I have to be rid of it. If I'm going to put myself through reading bad news on a daily basis, I'd rather follow politics. At least politics is actually important in today's world (although we all know why they aren't discussed here).

I just hope that this will be the last time I have to make such a rant. Been wanting to do this for awhile and I'm glad I finally got it behind me.

[tailz]

[QUOTE=tailz;217761]That's why I mostly depend on Nintendo and Sega. You hardly ever hear of Capcom releasing video games and or new titles anymore. (Also, they never made a system. At least I don't think so.)

I mostly love sega because of Sonic the hedgehog and Hatsune Miku. Also the fact that they help create some of the Astro boy and Black Jack games. Though, some sega games can be referred to as "Poorly funded", but that dosen't literally mean that the game is bad. It dosen't even matter about graphics of a game for that matter. It matters if the game is fun and enjoyable to you or not. Also, Sega's systems were amazing for being released back in the 90s. Dreamcast even had it's own online store!

I like Nintendo because they are basically what started Video games to become soo big. Also because I dig most Nintendo games like Mario Bros,Zelda,Kid Icarus,Kirby, and Pokemon more than I dig sega games. Also, Nintendo has some great systems like N64 and Gamecube. The Nintendo Wii was great as well.

Capcom's ok though. They created a few games I play like Megaman and some of the legend of zelda series. I guess, they are losing profit and the company is not real well known these days like it was back in the day. Though, Megaman is going to be in the new Super Smash bros. game as a playable character, so that means that Capcom is trying to get out of they're deep hole. So they're doing alright for now.

I'd be careful with Sega. Like other video game companies, Sega also does shady practices. I'd suggest avoiding games from them that contains micro-transaction/on-disc DLC/other bad practices.

Capcom's assets are good and they have virtually no debt. Financially, they should be fine. That's not saying a lot for gamers, though.

Capcom still release games on a frequent basis. Where I do have problems with Capcom is the fact that the games aren't up to the standards that they used to be. Many of their games are going on mobile phone and out of their upcoming games, the only interesting games for 2014 looks to be Strider HD and Ultra Street Fighter IV. The rest of their games either engage in bad practices (there's no guarantee that either Strider or Street Fighter won't have them) or as I said before, are mobile games. Capcom has disappointed me (and millions of other gamers) so much over the past few years that I ended up stop buying games from them (and a few interesting games aren't enough to change that). Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U could very well be the last time I ever spend money on them. [/QUOTE]

Well, personally, I disagree. I think DLC is great! It captures more attention to gamers, and that makes the games more playable and catches more attention after they complete it. I have some games that have DLC in them, and I enjoy it! The DLC makes the game more fun and you'll likely won't abandon it after you complete it. Mostly in the games I own, I get more costumes, more playable characters, and new songs to play when I buy DLC for it. I enjoy my DLC in the games I enjoy playing.!

So, I don't think DLC is bad at all and I won't try to avoid it. I really don't think DLC makes games bad, I think it just matters wether if the DLC is worth getting or not.
Also, I can't imagine Avoiding sega. I can't imagine my life without Miku! Also, I adore Sonic. I don't think sega is bad, It's actually doing pretty good so far and is selling a lot of games that people are interested in buying. !

And yeah, Capcom did upset some fans, but it's trying it's best to get out of it's deep hole like I said before. !

[tailz]

There's only one thing I want to get off my chest. How my favorite Jacket got ruined. Anyways, It happend about a month ago when I was in art class and we were painting color wheels that represented the shape of a flower. So I guess I wasn't really thinking straight, but I wore my Jacket with the big long sleeves during that time and I got paint on it without even noticing it. I noticed it after school but I didn't really seem to care. After a month passed, I finally decided to throw it in the washing machine and scrub that paint stain (which looked like a grease stain to my mother) clean. Well, Actually I just cleaned the darn thing today, and the stain did not come off!! My mother said it's still visible but I have no choice but to wear it to school tomorrow. Anyways I'm very upset about it because it's my favorite Jacket and my Mother is thinking about throwing it away and replacing it with a new jacket. (Ugh, I bet it's going to be something girly.) The reason why I liked this particular jacket is becuase it had that 80s look to it and it also looked like a vest. (Which for some reason, reminded me of Black Jack! ) Also, the buttons! I love buttons! ! Zippers break too easily! :d oh:

Ah, that feels better! Now I don't have to worry about it anymore! !

[Fuzzy Pickles!]

[QUOTE=astarisborn94;217796]I'd be careful with Sega. Like other video game companies, Sega also does shady practices. I'd suggest avoiding games from them that contains micro-transaction/on-disc DLC/other bad practices.

Capcom's assets are good and they have virtually no debt. Financially, they should be fine. That's not saying a lot for gamers, though.

Capcom still release games on a frequent basis. Where I do have problems with Capcom is the fact that the games aren't up to the standards that they used to be. Many of their games are going on mobile phone and out of their upcoming games, the only interesting games for 2014 looks to be Strider HD and Ultra Street Fighter IV. The rest of their games either engage in bad practices (there's no guarantee that either Strider or Street Fighter won't have them) or as I said before, are mobile games. Capcom has disappointed me (and millions of other gamers) so much over the past few years that I ended up stop buying games from them (and a few interesting games aren't enough to change that). Super Smash Bros. 3DS & Wii U could very well be the last time I ever spend money on them.

Well, personally, I disagree. I think DLC is great! It captures more attention to gamers, and that makes the games more playable and catches more attention after they complete it. I have some games that have DLC in them, and I enjoy it! The DLC makes the game more fun and you'll likely won't abandon it after you complete it. Mostly in the games I own, I get more costumes, more playable characters, and new songs to play when I buy DLC for it. I enjoy my DLC in the games I enjoy playing.!

So, I don't think DLC is bad at all and I won't try to avoid it. I really don't think DLC makes games bad, I think it just matters wether if the DLC is worth getting or not.
Also, I can't imagine Avoiding sega. I can't imagine my life without Miku! Also, I adore Sonic. I don't think sega is bad, It's actually doing pretty good so far and is selling a lot of games that people are interested in buying. !

And yeah, Capcom did upset some fans, but it's trying it's best to get out of it's deep hole like I said before. ![/QUOTE]You do realize I was talking about abuse of DLC and not the concept of DLC in general.

...right?

I also didn't say to avoid Sega. What I'm saying that like other companies, Sega has been guilty of shady practices. Games that abuse micro-transaction/on-disc DLC/DRMs are games to be avoided, regardless of company of choice.

[tailz]

ok, so sometimes I read a little too fast and skim through long messages. Sorry about that...

I only heard of DLC, not on disc DLC. Is it the same or different?

[Fuzzy Pickles!]

ok, so sometimes I read a little too fast and skim through long messages. Sorry about that...

I only heard of DLC, not on disc DLC. Is it the same or different?

Both are forms of DLC. There are the good types of DLC that expand upon the game and give gamers more of what they love. Then there are the bad types of DLC, of which on-disc DLC falls upon.

Good DLCs are announced and created after a game release to expand content upon the game (as said before). On-disc DLC, on the other hand, is announced and created before the game is released. Unlike good DLC, on-disc DLC takes away content from the game and force players to buy the content in order to get the "complete" experience. Gamers don't get the full as a result and get less than what they paid for. This happens very often in today's gaming world, one big example was when Jill Valentine was hidden behind on-disc DLC in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3. It's not that hard to tell when a game has on-disc DLC or not. A general guideline to follow is if a game has DLC a week after the game release (if not earlier), it was on the disc.

[tailz]

I see. I never experienced that kind of DLC before. My games always announce the DLC a couple months later after the game is released.

I agree with you about the on disc DLC, that does sound a little bad. They shouldn't do that. It kinda sounds like they just want your money to me.