Destruction of Gulf of Mexico

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Postby jeffbert » 15 years ago

"cybotron" wrote:[QUOTE=AprilSeven;101256]I've also heard that BP lobbied [successfully] for a relaxation of failsafe redundancies that are costly -- it appears to me this a tragic example of how corrupt and short-sighted many influential members of our world have become. Ultimately it's the voice of all us "small people" voting with our pocketbooks and at the polls that will change bad gov't and corp. policies (at least that's my belief). All the laws and oversight committees and international coalitions in the world won't stop corruption as effectively as ethical individuals who refuse to support/elect the people/companies allowing the problems to exist.

Sorry -- soapbox moment!! :blush:

That's true they did lobby. It's the curse of Reagan deregulation frenzy. "Get the government of your back" he said. And now you see the result years later. :o hmy:[/QUOTE]
BP was a major contributor to O. I do not know when this well was made, though. I do not want to argue about Reagan's policies, but it seems to me that the assertion that his deregulation resulted in this tragedy some 4 administrations, 10 Congresses, and 20+ years later is stretching it just a bit. :hyo:
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Like a bunch of bad dominoes falling in a crazy pattern :-(

Postby AprilSeven » 15 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:[QUOTE=cybotron;101266][QUOTE=AprilSeven;101256]I've also heard that BP lobbied [successfully] for a relaxation of failsafe redundancies that are costly -- it appears to me this a tragic example of how corrupt and short-sighted many influential members of our world have become. Ultimately it's the voice of all us "small people" voting with our pocketbooks and at the polls that will change bad gov't and corp. policies (at least that's my belief). All the laws and oversight committees and international coalitions in the world won't stop corruption as effectively as ethical individuals who refuse to support/elect the people/companies allowing the problems to exist.

Sorry -- soapbox moment!! :blush:

That's true they did lobby. It's the curse of Reagan deregulation frenzy. "Get the government of your back" he said. And now you see the result years later. :o hmy:[/QUOTE]
BP was a major contributor to O. I do not know when this well was made, though. I do not want to argue about Reagan's policies, but it seems to me that the assertion that his deregulation resulted in this tragedy some 4 administrations, 10 Congresses, and 20+ years later is stretching it just a bit. :hyo: [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree with Jeffbert, but I know a lot of people who do feel the way Cybotron does.

Point is, we've all got to keep an eye on the people we entrust our countries to. Deregulation can work if everyone is honest, and has a sense of responsibility to duty. And regulatory commissions can fail if the people who are on them are connected to "insiders" (or are former insiders themselves). I believe it's beyond any particular political ideology. We all need to look closely at everyone, demand transparency, and hold them all accountable.

The "tail" has been wagging the dog for too long, and I think this tragic event will help turn the tide, but it's going to be a long, slow, ugly process.

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Postby cybotron » 15 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:[QUOTE=cybotron;101266][QUOTE=AprilSeven;101256]I've also heard that BP lobbied [successfully] for a relaxation of failsafe redundancies that are costly -- it appears to me this a tragic example of how corrupt and short-sighted many influential members of our world have become. Ultimately it's the voice of all us "small people" voting with our pocketbooks and at the polls that will change bad gov't and corp. policies (at least that's my belief). All the laws and oversight committees and international coalitions in the world won't stop corruption as effectively as ethical individuals who refuse to support/elect the people/companies allowing the problems to exist.

Sorry -- soapbox moment!! :blush:

That's true they did lobby. It's the curse of Reagan deregulation frenzy. "Get the government of your back" he said. And now you see the result years later. :o hmy:[/QUOTE]
BP was a major contributor to O. I do not know when this well was made, though. I do not want to argue about Reagan's policies, but it seems to me that the assertion that his deregulation resulted in this tragedy some 4 administrations, 10 Congresses, and 20+ years later is stretching it just a bit. :hyo: [/QUOTE]
Perhaps it is streaching. :lol:
But The Texas big oil money came in with bush senior. And had Reagan banners. But enuff no one will fault Ol Ronnie 666 Reagan with wrong. :lol:
But they did lobby.
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Postby The Tawashi Bus Hat » 15 years ago

You know what's really sad?

The spill happened in April and they still haven't hindered it in the least.


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Postby dannavy85 » 15 years ago

BP and Big Oil have their hands all over the place in D.C. and what was D.C at one time?

A big fat cess pool swamp and it hasn't changed.

I'll tell you whole be president in 2012....Bobby Jindal.
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Postby AprilSeven » 15 years ago

"dannavy85" wrote:BP and Big Oil have their hands all over the place in D.C. and what was D.C at one time?

A big fat cess pool swamp and it hasn't changed.

I'll tell you whole be president in 2012....Bobby Jindal.


You're not the first person I've heard make that prediction! This whole mess lands at his front door! :unsure:

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Postby The Tawashi Bus Hat » 15 years ago

"AprilSeven" wrote:[QUOTE=dannavy85;101305]BP and Big Oil have their hands all over the place in D.C. and what was D.C at one time?

A big fat cess pool swamp and it hasn't changed.

I'll tell you whole be president in 2012....Bobby Jindal.


You're not the first person I've heard make that prediction! This whole mess lands at his front door! :unsure:

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Postby avatargirl » 15 years ago

I just pray the possible horrors i heard about this oil spill can not happen- want no else to be hurt by this tragedy-

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Postby cybotron » 15 years ago

"avatargirl" wrote:I just pray the possible horrors i heard about this oil spill can not happen- want no else to be hurt by this tragedy-

Of course you don't. :unsure:
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Postby cybotron » 15 years ago

"The Tawashi Bus Hat" wrote:[QUOTE=AprilSeven;101315][QUOTE=dannavy85;101305]BP and Big Oil have their hands all over the place in D.C. and what was D.C at one time?

A big fat cess pool swamp and it hasn't changed.

I'll tell you whole be president in 2012....Bobby Jindal.


You're not the first person I've heard make that prediction! This whole mess lands at his front door! :unsure:

:astro: - hurry up and invent me so I can help![/QUOTE]

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You know I just heard Jindal demand that Deep water drilling be resumed at once for economic reasons! Do you not think that resuming or making more of these things is nutzzzzz? :lol:
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