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Sony Vegas 8...I hate you!

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:00 pm
by Alittleacorn
I got the platinum version for Christmas and I've only now started learning on how to use it. It was daunting at first, but I more or less know how to work everything now...except, there's ONE thing that is making my blood boil!

Let's take a look at Window Movie Maker. When you import a clip you have the option of cutting clips into sections and leaving them in folders. That way they're easier to look through and selecting.

Vegas on the other hand...HAS NO SUCH THING! When you import a video, the entirely thing is loaded into a folder complete and uneditable. Instead you have the option of going to trimmer where you select parts out to put on the timeline. Considering when you have a clip that's over 7 minutes long and you only want a certian part that's only a 1 second long, scrolling through to find it is a nightmare! A NIGHTMARE! :d oh: And to make it more of an insult you can only open one video file per a time on trimmer.

In all, editing videos this way is time consuming, annoying and frustrating. Heck, I could've made half an amv at the rate i've been messing with that stupid trimmer!

Then again I've not grasped this program entirely, so if there is an easier way of doing this then I've not yet discovered it. If anybody has this program, can you please tell me if there is? Because frankly the shiny effects and video quality aren't gonna win me over with this stupid glitch. :p irate:

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:16 pm
by cybotron
What? :unsure:
I've used Vegas a long time, I've got Vegas 10 now, and I've never had a problem like that!
When you import your clip, no matter the size, it's easy to select the portion for edit. And you can trim right on the timeline by selecting the portion you want and cut and paste or copy the part of the clip you want.! It's the easiest editing software of all! :w00t:
I produced an entire DVD using Vegas pro

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:46 pm
by Alittleacorn
"cybotron" wrote:What? :unsure:
I've used Vegas a long time, I've got Vegas 10 now, and I've never had a problem like that!
When you import your clip, no matter the size, it's easy to select the portion for edit. And you can trim right on the timeline by selecting the portion you want and cut and paste or copy the part of the clip you want.! It's the easiest editing software of all! :w00t:
I produced an entire DVD using Vegas pro


Yeah but every time I go to trim the screenshot on it changes and annoys the heck out of me. >_<

And yeah the rest is easy, but that isn't. It's useless for complex stuff as ar as I can see cause this issue bugs me :cry:

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:09 pm
by cybotron
"Alittleacorn" wrote:[QUOTE=cybotron;121199]What? :unsure:
I've used Vegas a long time, I've got Vegas 10 now, and I've never had a problem like that!
When you import your clip, no matter the size, it's easy to select the portion for edit. And you can trim right on the timeline by selecting the portion you want and cut and paste or copy the part of the clip you want.! It's the easiest editing software of all! :w00t:
I produced an entire DVD using Vegas pro


Yeah but every time I go to trim the screenshot on it changes and annoys the heck out of me. >_<

And yeah the rest is easy, but that isn't. It's useless for complex stuff as ar as I can see cause this issue bugs me :cry: [/QUOTE]
You must be doing something wrong. Or somethings mucked up...
OK! I was not gonna do this....
But let me show you how complex I can get with Vegas....
Forbidden Nector of the Butterfly
Kadath:The Cathedral of Yog Sothoth entrance of the Shog'Goth
These were made using Vegas 8 -9

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:52 pm
by Atomars
Maybe you can try to use Adobe After Effects :unsure: , like i did :)

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:58 am
by Alittleacorn
"cybotron" wrote:You must be doing something wrong. Or somethings mucked up...
OK! I was not gonna do this....
But let me show you how complex I can get with Vegas....
Forbidden Nector of the Butterfly
Kadath:The Cathedral of Yog Sothoth entrance of the Shog'Goth
These were made using Vegas 8 -9


B-but, that doesn't really help me at all :cry: the rest of the program I get, it's cutting the clips so they're easier to look through I'm stuck with... :eek: although, that is some pretty animation, did you animate that yourself? O.O

When I import a video in Windows Movie Maker I can store them in seperate folders, and in those seperate folders I can cut them into segments so I can go through them easy and select what part of the video I need.

Vegas 8 doesn't have this at all, I upload the file into a folder, can't cut it unless I go on trimmer and then I wind up spending 5 minutes searching through a whole file for one clip.

There's no easy way storing the videos and managing them, that's the issue I got. Sometimes when I'm making an amv I don't always have a clue what type of clip I need, that's why seeing every clip is so important to me, otherwise I am literally working blind with this program. :(

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:19 am
by AprilSeven
ummmm can you cut everything up in MovieMaker and just work with the chopped up components in Vegas?

It's kinda like how I outfox Acrobat by dragging a pdf's sorry little butt into Illustrator to manipulate the heck out of it, and then turn it back into a sweet, innocent little pdfy. **grrrgh!**

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:23 am
by Alittleacorn
"AprilSeven" wrote:ummmm can you cut everything up in MovieMaker and just work with the chopped up components in Vegas?

It's kinda like how I outfox Acrobat by dragging a pdf's sorry little butt into Illustrator to manipulate the heck out of it, and then turn it back into a sweet, innocent little pdfy. **grrrgh!**


Nope.

1. It'd take too long

and

2....it'd take too long! :cry:

Plus if I were to do that I'd lose video quality. That's one of the things Vegas is good with, when you save a file the quality isn't downgraded like it is in Windows Movie Maker.

(glomps) Save meeee :hyo:

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:37 am
by diehard67
if you tell the other program to save uncompressed then you shouldn't loose quality.

other then that I can't help[ with vegas never used it.

I could if you wanted try to compile some of the open sorce linus videoediting software on windows in cygwin???, maby 1 of those will work for you.

1 thing I do know from editing my own home videos is that there is no 1 perfect program.
cinalara is my faverate for editing but it can't capture from my camcorder (firewire capture doesn't work on newer kernels with cinalara)
kino can capture but has vertualy no editing capibilities.

so I capture with kino then edit with cinalara, althow my new laptop diesn't have firewire so I will be capturing with a usv video capture dongle and vlc. or the desktop computer then push the files over to the laptop

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:45 am
by Alittleacorn
"diehard67" wrote:if you tell the other program to save uncompressed then you shouldn't loose quality.


You can, do that with WMM? :eek: