Would 'Kokoro' robots ever exist?

[Androids101]

Pretty much what the poll and the title says

(Also, by 'Kokoro' I mean the ability to think like humans.)

[the 鉄腕アトム fan]

i think they will one day in the future

[Astro Boy2866]

Yes I they will and I want them to. I am actually fascinated by robots and I want to major in robotics engineering (mechanical engineering). We are getting closer to artificial intelligence, but we have a long ways to go if we want to have robots with AI who have "feelings". People fear that they will turn against us or turn into terminators, but if we actually treat them as equals when Kokoro exists, then there shouldn't be many problems.

[Novacain]

I wouldn't be surprised if they already did exist, but like flying cars, we will never see the likes of it. And probably for the better with this in mind:

Also, by 'Kokoro' I mean the ability to think like humans.

Not that I think all people are bad, but it only takes one to cause a riot!

[Androids101]

Yes I they will and I want them to. I am actually fascinated by robots and I want to major in robotics engineering (mechanical engineering). We are getting closer to artificial intelligence, but we have a long ways to go if we want to have robots with AI who have "feelings". People fear that they will turn against us or turn into terminators, but if we actually treat them as equals when Kokoro exists, then there shouldn't be many problems.

Yeah, but to be honest I think the major issue here is that many people wouldn't wan't to treat them like equals. Especially when you're getting ordered around by something you made... And that's also unfair to the robots, since they have all the capabilities humans have and yet they only have little or no rights. Maybe what the '03 series is true in a way, humans may not want the robots, and the robots may not want us...

[jeffbert]

There are robots as we usually know them; that is, machines, & there are biological artificial beings. I believe I saw a GIZMAG page about artificial synapses, which suggests that human-like artificial brains may become a reality. Other than that, Asimov says that robots' brains (presumably, the electronic type) are finite, & cannot do anything other than their programming allows. I do not know if others such as Rodney Brooks now think otherwise, but assuming it were possible, it might be a grave error.

Without a doubt, most humans will not welcome true thinking robots. Even if we disregard the many stories involving the FRANKENSTEIN COMPLEX, that is, the created being turns against its creator, why would we want the potential competition from another class, or race as it may be? FUTURAMA makes fun of it, but who wants a DON BOT running a robot mafia? If the robots develop their own religion-- forget it, I will avoid this one!

Scientists want to develop AI so that robots will be helpful to humans, but this is true of many things that have or could in theory, be abused. Asimov's POSITRONIC BRAIN was undoubtedly an analog computer, but with digital, could there be these directives that as Asimov puts it, with "that injunction [be kind to humans, etc: 3 LAWS] driven so deeply into its basic circuits that no conceivable derangement could displace it" (Caves of Steel, 1953, 1954, p. 64)? I really doubt it!

Even assuming that there would be robot brains made such that they could never rebel, never even think anything but submissive thoughts, every moving part would need individual protection against even accidentally harming a human! Arms, legs, etc; would all require extensive circuitry to ensure this.

There would be law suits galore! I firmly believe that other than military robots, most would be small, slow-moving, and restricted to operating in their masters' homes, etc. They would likely be heavily padded so that even bumps of their elbows would cause no harm; they would need to immediately halt all motion in case they might knock someone over.

So, even if the technology is possible, the liabilities would make anyone think twice. On the other hand, so-called bionic limbs may be well within reach of technology & practicality; but the liability of one's bionic arm going haywire & bonking the rich guy, who has lawyers at his beck & call--

[Astro Boy2866]

Yeah, but to be honest I think the major issue here is that many people wouldn't wan't to treat them like equals. Especially when you're getting ordered around by something you made... And that's also unfair to the robots, since they have all the capabilities humans have and yet they only have little or no rights. Maybe what the '03 series is true in a way, humans may not want the robots, and the robots may not want us...

That's true, many people wouldn't, but not all because there are also many who will see it as something opportunistic. Even if people are ordered around by a robot at a job, it's not like it is going to be like one of those horrible bosses that the other workers could go home and say, "I have the worst boss ever. He treats me like I'm just an expendable piece of crap." The robot will probably tell the people what to do, but it will not be rude and it will probably not sit around like some human bosses would. Maybe the '03 series was true also that there are also people who depend on robots and would also consider them to be equals.


@Jeffbert and Androids101

Very valid arguments, from both of you guys, and you can call me crazy, you can call me foolish, but I will still remain on the optimistic side of robots with kokoro. Robots may be made with AI just to help us more efficiently, but I do believe they will be more than tools someday.

As for bionic limbs, they are very practical and that kind of technology is already here. For any problems like the limb going haywire, there surely are fail-safe systems to prevent anything like that.

[Alittleacorn]

I can't remember this name but this man claimed in a book that it would be impossible for robots to think for themselves. Because of the amount of, what was it, ah, i can't remember term. But he said even the most advanced robots only had as much brain cell power as an insect.

But this is with technology of today, who knows what it'll be like in the future. So yeah, I'd love Kokoro in robots, if it ever happens.

[Astro Boy2866]

I can't remember this name but this man claimed in a book that it would be impossible for robots to think for themselves. Because of the amount of, what was it, ah, i can't remember term. But he said even the most advanced robots only had as much brain cell power as an insect.

But this is with technology of today, who knows what it'll be like in the future. So yeah, I'd love Kokoro in robots, if it ever happens.

I think I know what you are talking about. Was the man Michio Kaku? But there are advancements in technology that are being made to allow technology to be able to process things faster and be able to be made even smaller and that could possibly help in making a robot be able to think for itself. Welcome to club

[Ghost]

Jeffbert, you sir took the words right out of my mouth.

From a technical stand point I think it is possible. It's just a matter of when something like that will see the light of day. So I wonder if a machine with a human mind will even come in our life time. I think it is possible it's just the question of when.

I do think that something like robots will come into our lives eventually. But I doubt they will have human qualities for the reasons that Jeffbert stated. People would just be too afraid and wouldn't allow it. I think that maybe they will develop mind of humans, but not fully.

I'm not claiming to be a genius, but I think eventually robots will be in our daily life. I just don't think they will have something like kokorro.