SHONEN MANGA orignal(?)

[ASTROBUDDY]

I do not know how they are packaged today.

@jeffbert**Mangas are packaged in clear plastic wrapping to protect the manga and to prevent casual readers from browsing through the magazine, You break the wrapping, you bought it!**

I have units 3-7 (of 7): Looking in my notes, v3 seems to start with #35 Artificial Sun; though I did not begin extensive comparisons between the DH & the JLV until 46 Space Parasites.

For the love of CUTEY HONEY, I must have UNIT 2, for its coverage of 28 Count Bat! I strongly suspect that it was Higeoyaji, not Honey, who originated the so-called speechification; that there originally were more than one panel in which Higeoyaji detailed the disguises he had used.

So from what I gather, you have reprints of the original TetsuWan Atomu manga as they appeared in the original magazines beginning in either 1958 or 1959. I read in an item on the Tezuka World website that said in the Mid-fifties due to the competition from different manga that the manga publishers began to publish supplements. It went on to state that Tezuka then while drawing his serials, provided complete stories for the supplements.
I have provided the cover of one of these supplements that contained a complete episode below. From 8/53, this is the episode originally titled "Atom goes to the Equator". You know it better as "Sea Serpent Isle'.
Looking through the "TetsuWan Atomu Daizukan" it appears that the supplements began to feature chapters from the main serial running in the main Shonen manga magazine sometime in 1958 or 1959. Before that they featured complete original stories that were self-contained. I don't believe the supplements were sold separately from the Shonen magazine, but as part of the wrapped package the magazines were sold in.
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[ASTROBUDDY]

I forgot to mention that the picture above was from a replica of the supplement that was part of manga reprints included in the Astro Boy "Happy Birthday" box from 2003, that I bought on eBay recently. The supplement in question was the first of the Shonen supplements starring Astro Boy that Tezuka did. The supplements originally were published at particular times of the year such as: a summer edition and as a New Year's edition, before becoming part of the monthly schedule.
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[jeffbert]

I admit that I do not know how these were packaged, whether the 50 page SF books were accompanied by LF pages I know not. But as the SF usually are labeled by month & year, & the ads seem to indicate that they were printed later, I am guessing that they were printed later.

I will check the ads to see if the same ones appear in earlier dated books as in later ones.

[ASTROBUDDY]

[QUOTE=jeffbert;172396]I admit that I do not know how these were packaged, whether the 50 page SF books were accompanied by LF pages I know not. But as the SF usually are labeled by month & year, & the ads seem to indicate that they were printed later, I am guessing that they were printed later. I will check the ads to see if the same ones appear in earlier dated books as in later ones. [/QUOTE

This thinking puzzles me because from your comparison of DH to JLV and that the dates of publication of each manga episode are clearly available for reference then how could one have been printed later than others? Especially when I am sure each unit is labeled by the period of the publication they collect, I.e., Jan. 1964 to Dec. 1966. So would you please clarify? Also maybe the ads are not from the same period as the story. They are reprinting the original version of the story, but not necessarily the entire original magazine.
Oh! One other question, what is on the covers of the LF?

[jeffbert]

[QUOTE=jeffbert;172396]I admit that I do not know how these were packaged, whether the 50 page SF books were accompanied by LF pages I know not. But as the SF usually are labeled by month & year, & the ads seem to indicate that they were printed later, I am guessing that they were printed later. I will check the ads to see if the same ones appear in earlier dated books as in later ones.

This thinking puzzles me because from your comparison of DH to JLV and that the dates of publication of each manga episode are clearly available for reference then how could one have been printed later than others? Especially when I am sure each unit is labeled by the period of the publication they collect, I.e., Jan. 1964 to Dec. 1966. So would you please clarify? Also maybe the ads are not from the same period as the story. They are reprinting the original version of the story, but not necessarily the entire original magazine.
Oh! One other question, what is on the covers of the LF?[/QUOTE]

1. I was of the opinion that these were reprints because the original comics had been published in Shonen magazine.
   [2]Yes, I was thinking that the ads were for products sold during the time of the reprints rather than the original printing.
2. I think I posted all the covers, including LF.

I was having trouble going from the text and the images then back again, so I do this:

Page 40 of 1964-06


Large format cover (p 31). At this point, Pluto visits Atom's home.


Sm F: 1964-07 FC


large format: p 39 (note that several pages of ads & such preceeded this.

Pluto is lying helpless at the end of this segment.


1964-08 fc

This segment end with Atom hiding behind rock as Pluto returns home.


LF page 47; the image will not occur in story until p52.


SF: 1964-09 FC


LF p 55 (previous page was color ad for hard shell candy in cardboard tube).


SF 1964-10 FC


LF p. 63 (preceeding page was color ad for slide viewer)


SF 1964-11 FC


LF p. 71


SF 1964-12 FC


LF p. 79; the details of Pluto's fight against Bora are in this last segment. I still do not understand why the small-format books would lack so much content. It could merely be the way these collector's reprints are organized, or perhaps a cost-cutting method of issuing the small format books; I would be guessing if I said it was either one, though.

[ASTROBUDDY]

[QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;172429][QUOTE=jeffbert;172396]I admit that I do not know how these were packaged, whether the 50 page SF books were accompanied by LF pages I know not. But as the SF usually are labeled by month & year, & the ads seem to indicate that they were printed later, I am guessing that they were printed later. I will check the ads to see if the same ones appear in earlier dated books as in later ones.

This thinking puzzles me because from your comparison of DH to JLV and that the dates of publication of each manga episode are clearly available for reference then how could one have been printed later than others? Especially when I am sure each unit is labeled by the period of the publication they collect, I.e., Jan. 1964 to Dec. 1966. So would you please clarify? Also maybe the ads are not from the same period as the story. They are reprinting the original version of the story, but not necessarily the entire original magazine.
Oh! One other question, what is on the covers of the LF?[/QUOTE]

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[*]I was of the opinion that these were reprints because the original comics had been published in Shonen magazine.
[2]Yes, I was thinking that the ads were for products sold during the time of the reprints rather than the original printing.
[*]I think I posted all the covers, including LF.


Oh! Okay! Yes, the ads are probably from the period of when the reprints were released. So that would mean whatever month of this year or last when the "Unit" was released as opposed to when the original was published.
Oh and I was referring to the cover of the particular LF volume, not the cover for the particular chapter of the serial. Remember, you said several chapters are included in the LF. (For the LF you provided page numbers leaving me to believe that page was not necessarily the cover, but just the title page of the particular chapter.) Thank you again for sharing your insights. I googled "Shonen Manga" and one of the links provided was to this thread!
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[ASTROBUDDY]

BTW, does the following picture look familiar to you? I believe it is the cover of the April, 1964 issue of the magazine, "Shonen"! I believe the April, 1964 issue had the second installment of "Last Day on Earth", so it would probably be in the LF volume which featured that serial.
(oh,yeah disregard the box over the big number four, unless of course it appears in your LF volume the same way.)
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[jeffbert]

I do not recall ever seeing that image before. FC:

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[ASTROBUDDY]

Thank you, Jeffbert for that closer look at what must be a very interesting volume. (Where one can see Tezuka's original vision!)
As I suspect, the original covers of the original "Shonen" magazine are not reproduced in the large format (LF) books (as they should be as they are reprinting the original manga stories as they were originally published back in1951-1968) because they do not solely feature Astro Boy! The image above of which I asked you, if you recognized it, was taken from a 1997 manga published by Kobunsha and titled "Mighty Atom Shonen Originals" which featured Atom manga episodes spanning 10 years: from 1953 to 1963. It is the cover of the April, 1964 edition of "Shonen" magazine. This issue shows the characters whose manga appeared in this issue on the lower right hand corner and as the number 3 feature you may recognize the 28 of Tetsujin 28 aka Gigantor.
Any way, thank you for your assist in clarfying the history of Astro Boy's "first" home.

[2013 marks the 50th anniversary of the premiere of the original Astro Boy anime and I am sure there will be a lot of publicity and interest regarding this milestone, so wrap up your notes and submit that book of yours. Set you sights on a year and a half deadline. You know I am not the only one of your fellow forum(ites)!? who awaits this tome and I believe you will have best luck with McFarland press.]

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[jeffbert]

I had not even thought about any particular publisher; I believe I need an agent who will take care of the search, but that costs $.