The Death of Sigfried "The Gotterdamerung"

[fafner]

Originally posted by jeffbert+Jul 11 2004, 12:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jeffbert @ Jul 11 2004, 12:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

<WHISPER>please stop doing Cybotron's homework </WHISPER>

Sorry about that, but I do so, to remain truly unbiased.[/b]

No problem, as stated Vergere, we don't always know when acting if it is right or wrong. I put errors in my statements hoping Cybotron will correct them, but he says nothing, even when they are spotted. For what I can see he might as well take them as granted and include false data into his brain :wacko:
Maybe you're just right about that <_<

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Aaaahhhh! a typo in my last postindg, and now that cybotron has quoted it, I cannot destroyt he evidence! :angry:
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You haven't saved before making a move, that's bad
...oh wait ! That's not a video game ! :wacko:
That's must be why the "save" option never worked... I must have to rethink my whole life

Now to take care of Cybotron... Don't believe that because Jeffbert gives away half of the solutions you are exempted of answering them Could you find what kind of fallacies hides among the demonstrations we both made ?

Now I have a question for you Cybotron.
I just saw yesterday the fellowhip of the ring another time and was striked by something I had barely noticed the other times: the confontation between nature/Shire and industry/Isengard. This rang a bell in my inner "Cybotron thinking sceme" And the following idea came:
Is Gandalf an agent of the government?
My inner "Cybotron thinking scheme" says he is, but with a low accuracy. Could you help me adjust the parameter ?

[jeffbert]

Now I have a question for you Cybotron.
I just saw yesterday the fellowhip of the ring another time and was striked by something I had barely noticed the other times: the confontation between nature/Shire and industry/Isengard. This rang a bell in my inner "Cybotron thinking sceme" And the following idea came:
Is Gandalf an agent of the government?
My inner "Cybotron thinking scheme" says he is, but with a low accuracy. Could you help me adjust the parameter ?

Im my Medieval lit class, we discussed that same thing. & as it has no bearing upon the question you pose for cybotron, I will state it. The author saw the destruction of forrests, pastures, etc, and included that in his work as a protest or statement against it.

[cybotron]

Gandalf was a member of the society ruled by Saruman. Saruman was over all the land or kingdom. When Gandalf saw that the evil was come upon him, he ran to his master Saruman. Saruman turned away with all his authority and had joined Sauron. Sarumon imprisoned Gandalf. Therefore.... Yes. Gandolf is an agent of the Middle earth Goverment, and so was Saruman. But Saruman turned rogue. B)

[jeffbert]

And for all his efforts, he was cut from the theatrical release. I hope to see Tall, Dark and Gruesome in the DVD.

[fafner]

Originally posted by cybotron@Jul 12 2004, 09:33 PM
Gandalf was a member of the society ruled by Saruman. Saruman was over all the land or kingdom. When Gandalf saw that the evil was come upon him, he ran to his master Saruman. Saruman turned away with all his authority and had joined Sauron. Sarumon imprisoned Gandalf. Therefore.... Yes. Gandolf is an agent of the Middle earth Goverment, and so was Saruman. But Saruman turned rogue. B)

Which government? There are several governments in Middle Earth
Gondor? Rohan? Maybe Shire? Or even Mordor? :wahah:
Or another one?

[cybotron]

Originally posted by fafner+Jul 13 2004, 05:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fafner @ Jul 13 2004, 05:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--cybotron@Jul 12 2004, 09:33 PM
Gandalf was a member of the society ruled by Saruman. Saruman was over all the land or kingdom. When Gandalf saw that the evil was come upon him, he ran to his master Saruman. Saruman turned away with all his authority and had joined Sauron. Sarumon imprisoned Gandalf. Therefore.... Yes. Gandolf is an agent of the Middle earth Goverment, and so was Saruman. But Saruman turned rogue. B)

Which government? There are several governments in Middle Earth
Gondor? Rohan? Maybe Shire? Or even Mordor? :wahah:
Or another one? [/b][/quote]
Well figure it out Faf.
Mordor is the dwelling of the evil darkness, Sauron himself... He betrayed the Goverment of light for the goverment of darkness and evil. Sort of like betraying England for Nazi Germany and Hitler. Or the Xaolin Temple for the khmer Rouge. :wahah:

[cybotron]

Originally posted by jeffbert@Jul 13 2004, 05:32 AM
And for all his efforts, he was cut from the theatrical release. I hope to see Tall, Dark and Gruesome in the DVD.

oooooo. You mean he's on the DVD? No. Really? :wahah:

[jeffbert]

I do not know for certain that Lee was even in the 3rd film, but, it seems rather odd to have him slip into obscurity like that. It has been well over 25 years since I read the books, but, it seems odd that he did not even show his face in the 3rd. CL is one of my favorite horror-genre actors. I esp enjoy his collaborations with Peter Cushing on Hammer films. Too bad Cushing died.

[cybotron]

Originally posted by jeffbert@Jul 13 2004, 12:32 PM
I do not know for certain that Lee was even in the 3rd film, but, it seems rather odd to have him slip into obscurity like that. It has been well over 25 years since I read the books, but, it seems odd that he did not even show his face in the 3rd. CL is one of my favorite horror-genre actors. I esp enjoy his collaborations with Peter Cushing on Hammer films. Too bad Cushing died.

Yeah... When I was a kid, I'd go to the movies and they would have triple features. Chris Lee and Peter Cushing theatre after theatre. The kids would'nt go see anything else. Except Vincent of course. I mean these guys were our babysitters. Everyone is gone now, CL is the only one left and you can forget getting a decent vampire movie these days. Hammer has not been equaled. A vampire that's not afraid of a cross is worthless in my book. They have no style anymore.

A Chris Lee page

Dracula is destroyed again!!! Saturday afternoon...sigh.
Yum!

[fafner]

Originally posted by cybotron@Jul 12 2004, 11:57 PM
Well figure it out Faf.
Mordor is the dwelling of the evil darkness, Sauron himself... He betrayed the Goverment of light for the goverment of darkness and evil. Sort of like betraying England for Nazi Germany and Hitler. Or the Xaolin Temple for the khmer Rouge. :wahah:

Nice picture
Ok, I withdraw Mordor, I had just put it there as a rhetoric style
The Shire was not a real choice either. But I am still not sure whose government you are referring to...
For what I understand, he served all Middle Earth governments that were goodness-oriented. Could he be agent of several governments?