NO! I think Imagi hit the fan!

[Novacain]

hmy:

[cybotron]

Whattaya think guys? Astroboy Action hero?

[Novacain]

Sure, Astro boy action would be bad arse but that still doesn't mean I want to view 17 yr old T&A on the big screen

[Alittleacorn]

I don't see anything wrong with Cora's outfit, o_O why's every female gotta reveal skin and show themselves off to draw people to a series?

That's why Dead or Alive is terrible @_@ I hope Tezuka Productions never sinks that low.

[Novacain]

I don't see anything wrong with Cora's outfit, o_O why's every female gotta reveal skin and show themselves off to draw people to a series?

Agreed.

Besides, doesn't Astro Boy have (and always did) more of a female fan base?

[cybotron]

See? And what a sig...
Result of doing that? No audience. No Box office. No T&A. Just take the Pokemon design into consideration. Or you will be ignored.
Bakugan...

[Dr. Jerk]

Not everyone goes to see movies just to watch girls with cleavage.

There are a lot of movies out there that have gotten great reviews and a lot of views, and didn't have people showing a lot of skin.

Even then, the movie was supposed to be about Astro. Even if Cora did show a lot of skin, it wouldn't matter much because she doesn't get a lot of focus anyway. The movie would have still been a flop.

[Fauna]

Exactly, everybody. Some people actually find the idea of making a woman an object to sell movie tickets fairly offensive, including myself. (I'd rather a woman with brains, and I'm sure there's more people who'd agree.) Objectifying women is a pretty horrible concept, and a low move to bring in money.

Plus, Cybotron...you cite Chi-Chi, Misty and Julie as these objects, and each of these girls are 12-14 years old. (For that matter, they each come from action-adventure shows with collectable mechandise that were aimed at young children - maybe not so for Dragonball.) We're supposed to be talking about Imagi's business closing, while you're more focused on thirteen-year-olds in bikinis.

[cybotron]

Not everyone goes to see movies just to watch girls with cleavage.

There are a lot of movies out there that have gotten great reviews and a lot of views, and didn't have people showing a lot of skin.

Even then, the movie was supposed to be about Astro. Even if Cora did show a lot of skin, it wouldn't matter much because she doesn't get a lot of focus anyway. The movie would have still been a flop.

Oh no! I did not mean that. I meant to get a major box office in action oriented anime. The way it was done resulted in no real box office. A company can't continue that way. And I just expressed my analysis of what happened from a Psychological perspective concerning design and the mass market of tween and subteen males. The demographic for action heroes. Where are we now, pokemon 11? Are you not a girl? I was talking about attracting boys addicted to video game violence and video game girls. The film was not designed for them! And because of that they stayed away. Pokemon level girl design would have helped along with a good dose of violence! But that's what makes box office, and popularity among pubescent and tween boys. Which is the demographic one must attract to have a hit.

[cybotron]

Exactly, everybody. Some people actually find the idea of making a woman an object to sell movie tickets fairly offensive, including myself. (I'd rather a woman with brains, and I'm sure there's more people who'd agree.) Objectifying women is a pretty horrible concept, and a low move to bring in money.

Plus, Cybotron...you cite Chi-Chi, Misty and Julie as these objects, and each of these girls are 12-14 years old. (For that matter, they each come from action-adventure shows with collectable mechandise that were aimed at young children - maybe not so for Dragonball.) We're supposed to be talking about Imagi's business closing, while you're more focused on thirteen-year-olds in bikinis.

I'm talking business. Imagi's business is anime. And their design philosphy which was contrary to what was need to stay in business. As a film and video producer I think I have enuff of an idea of what they did to not penetrate the theater market with what they produced and why they failed with a 65million dollar production. Character design. TV tokyo. The stuff I've shown was designed by Doctors of Psychology and teachers for the purpose of mass thought control, which is what mass programming is about. They had no chance in such a field with Astroboy. These characters you describe as 13-14 yr old girls are drawings by grown people to attract youth of that age. I am not responsible for it. The doctors and teachers of TV Tokyo are responsible. I merely pointed out what they did. I will not delve into the mindset of Imagi. But it is almost as if someone did Astro to fail. Because they used none of what they needed to reach the box office.
Whattaya think guys? Who drew Pokemon and Chi Chi? And why? These are great hits running on tv for Decades. You can't give Astroboy to the networks.
There is the difference. A redesign is in order I should think.
Merchandise? Character design 101 TV Tokyo school of design


VS Imagi school of design...

Really a design for failure...
Who did this? Some angry woman? Yuck! That's what all the boys will say.
It's like they did it on purpose Why? You gotta be kidding!