WHY TIMA WENT NUTS

[Anime Girl]

I think it's because she realized she was a robot, and also how Duke Red and other people treated robots.

[jeffbert]

I tend to agree with F-man, but with some thoughts to add: even if her experience was short, she thought of herself as a human, wanted to be a human, and when she discovered she's just a robot (with Duke Red reinforcing this) she gave herself to her fate. Throughout the film she wonders "who am I?", even to the end. So she was trying to find her place among humans, and would prefer to be one.

Thanks, Xenops; but do you think she was still a bit unsure about the distinction between humans & robots? I mean the physical, rather than the class, as it was easy to see how humans treated robots.

[Xenops]

Thanks, Xenops; but do you think she was still a bit unsure about the distinction between humans & robots? I mean the physical, rather than the class, as it was easy to see how humans treated robots.

Perhaps the physical, but more of whether to perceive herself as a robot or a human. Or is she something different? In that case, since she was the only one, she would find it difficult as to how to see herself and how to relate to others. That was the appeal of Kenichi: he saw her as a person, and was not concerned about her true identity. Duke Red and others just viewed her as an extravagant machine.

I think there is a difference between Tima and Atom: Atom knows he's different, but seems comfortable relating to humans and robots. Tima has an identity crisis. Of course this is because Atom has a strong support base (Ochanomizo, other robots, the citizens), whereas the only person that is a support base for Tima is Kenichi. So her personal security is dependent on him, and since he was drugged out at her hardest time, she couldn't stand up on her own. So with this crisis at the height and the physical damage to her heart, she went nuts.

Wow, this turned out longer than I planned.

[F-Man]

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Thanks, Xenops; but do you think she was still a bit unsure about the distinction between humans & robots? I mean the physical, rather than the class, as it was easy to see how humans treated robots.

Perhaps the physical, but more of whether to perceive herself as a robot or a human. Or is she something different? In that case, since she was the only one, she would find it difficult as to how to see herself and how to relate to others. That was the appeal of Kenichi: he saw her as a person, and was not concerned about her true identity. Duke Red and others just viewed her as an extravagant machine.

I think there is a difference between Tima and Atom: Atom knows he's different, but seems comfortable relating to humans and robots. Tima has an identity crisis. Of course this is because Atom has a strong support base (Ochanomizo, other robots, the citizens), whereas the only person that is a support base for Tima is Kenichi. So her personal security is dependent on him, and since he was drugged out at her hardest time, she couldn't stand up on her own. So with this crisis at the height and the physical damage to her heart, she went nuts.

Wow, this turned out longer than I planned. [/QUOTE]

Wonderfully put, and this also gives a very strong reasoning behind the idea to write Kenichi being drugged out for this scene, rather than just arriving too late or something. Every little thing in this movie feels like it has a specific purpose, and that's what I meant earlier by "finding the relevant clues." Your explaination in this case acts like a proof that Tima turned evil due to some internal crisis because she could not rely on the only one she could really trust at the worst time.

[Xenops]

[QUOTE=Xenops;125368][QUOTE=jeffbert;125279]
Thanks, Xenops; but do you think she was still a bit unsure about the distinction between humans & robots? I mean the physical, rather than the class, as it was easy to see how humans treated robots.

Perhaps the physical, but more of whether to perceive herself as a robot or a human. Or is she something different? In that case, since she was the only one, she would find it difficult as to how to see herself and how to relate to others. That was the appeal of Kenichi: he saw her as a person, and was not concerned about her true identity. Duke Red and others just viewed her as an extravagant machine.

I think there is a difference between Tima and Atom: Atom knows he's different, but seems comfortable relating to humans and robots. Tima has an identity crisis. Of course this is because Atom has a strong support base (Ochanomizo, other robots, the citizens), whereas the only person that is a support base for Tima is Kenichi. So her personal security is dependent on him, and since he was drugged out at her hardest time, she couldn't stand up on her own. So with this crisis at the height and the physical damage to her heart, she went nuts.

Wow, this turned out longer than I planned. [/QUOTE]

Wonderfully put, and this also gives a very strong reasoning behind the idea to write Kenichi being drugged out for this scene, rather than just arriving too late or something. Every little thing in this movie feels like it has a specific purpose, and that's what I meant earlier by "finding the relevant clues." Your explaination in this case acts like a proof that Tima turned evil due to some internal crisis because she could not rely on the only one she could really trust at the worst time.[/QUOTE]

Thank you!

[Dr. Jerk]

Agreed.

I'm willing to say Xenop's opinion is canon, even though the entire movie relies a lot on personal view points.

So yes, that'll be canon to me.

Because I said so. <_<

[jeffbert]

I agree with the latter portion of your post Dr. Jerk, & am leaning toward agreement with the former part, but am eager to hear other opinions.

[Anime Girl]

Writers needed to bring an end to the film? LOL!