193 book

[fafner]

Not big enough to read, but I feel better about it this way.

I could read it... if I could read Japanese

[ASTROBUDDY]

[QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;125429]Wow! Such detail! Don't let me pressure you but, GET YOUR BOOK PUBLISHED! No really your sense for detail is remarkable and also inspiring. Now down to details. So do you agree that it is a great companion to "Mighty Atom Complete Book"? It took me a while but I finally figured out BK meant "the Blue Knight"! Your comments were very interesting! The thing I like best about "193" is the way they illustrate each anime series. By using images as comparisons of what in Japanese are known by one name throughout. In the English versions for example: Uran is known by four different names--Astro Girl, Urane and Sarah and Zoran. They also use the image of Atlas from each different anime. First as Ferno, then as Atlas, Atlas. I really enjoyed the images they used to illustrate each series showing how they handled the different Astro Boy family members of each anime. I think these are definitely two books that belong in every Astro Boy fans library! I

Thanks for the compliment. It was easier than scanning, & uploading; though any more than those few pages, would not be. I really cannot say w/o being fluent in Japanese how good this is, though by merely viewing pages, it seems great.

They also use the image of Atlas from each different anime. First as Ferno, then as Atlas, Atlas.

'image'? do you mean name? I am on pg 10-11, & see images, but assume 'Ferno' is in the J-text.[/QUOTE]

No I mean "picture". If you notice on pgs. 10 & 11 they use a quartet of pictures for each of the three anime versions to show the differences and similarities between each of them. I used the English dub names to distnguish between the different images of Atlas in the different anime that were shown when they were illustrating how a particular character appeared in each anime of "Astro Boy". In the Japanese text of course "Ferno" is known as Atarus or simply Atlas! I was saying that having that two page spread showing the three anime side by side and how the different characters appeared in each anime was "cool" and one of the great features of the book. And like I explained before, I "cut and paste" the synopses from the Right Stuf's "Astro Boy Episode Guide" and the synopses listed on the Tezuka Osamu website, so I could have my own episode guide in English with pictures. Because I have to admit that the pictures inside the book are almost as nice as when you post scenes from one of the 89.

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[jeffbert]

Oh, o.k.

can you tell me the name of the small-nosed robot whose eyes are covered with his hair in #144? I know the big-nosed guy is Muuler or Mueller.

[ASTROBUDDY]

Okay, let's see! #144 is one of the 89, and it's one I have never seen! Now according to the English guides #144 is known as "Lost Friendship" (aka "A Lost Friendship"). The plot says that Astro Boy and his siblings make a new robot friend who turns out to be a bomb to be used by terrorists! In other words a plot theme Dr. Tezuka has used on several occasions. (My favorite of these is "Attack From Space!" The misuse of iinnocents is one of Tezuka's more prominent themes, I think!

Now let me see, I don't know really to which character you are referring but the only other name in the castlist besides Muller is "Fantomu" or simply "Phantom"!

If you find time maybe you can make a thread for this episode. I would really like to see it and you do those threads so well!

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[jeffbert]

'Phantom,' thanks, ASTROBUDDY! I will make a thread.

[jeffbert]

More questions for ASTROBUDDY:

#96 has another appearance of the villain known as "Al Mc Anic" in the English version of Robot school. I assume since it features his image, that his name is also there.

#97 is, in my opinion, based on one of the most well-known scifi stories, one that is retold in STAR TREK, & many others, including THE OUTER LIMITS. Does the book mention any inspiration for this story?

#98 is definitely based upon Tezuka's Zeo manga. Is there any mention of it?

-Thanks!

[ASTROBUDDY]

Well let me see, for those who may come across this thread and this post, I will give you the titles of the episodes to which Jeffbert is referring. The first episode which is listed as episode# 96 is "The Robot, Future" known as epiosde# 87, "The Great Rocket Robbery" and tells the tale of a robot named Future because his inventor created him to be able to forecast different events, such as disasters,etc. Now the character to Jeffbert refers is known as "Dr. Goldthumb" in the Amercian version. The Tezuka website's synopsis for this episode lists him as Dr. Akuta. Looking at the character cast list for the epiosde in the "193", I see that there is a Dr. Akuta listed in the cast.

Episode# 97 known in the Tezuka website as "Confrontation in Space"; in Schodt's Astro Boy Essays, pg. 191 as "Space Showdown" and as American episode# 88, "Contest in Space" bears a resemblance in theme to the Star Trek episode. "The Arena" and to the Outer Limits episode, "Fun and Games". As I stated before I cut and pasted the English synopses for each episode in the book, which means certain portions of each page were covered over when I pasted the English synopses in. That is the case with episode# 97. But since it appears that only the synopsis for the episode detailing the action was done I would wager that no mention of any "inspiration" was mentioned; especially since I don't believe the Outer Limits episode may have not aired in Japan at the same time as Atom# 97 and the Star Trek episode I believe aired in North America in 1966 or 1967.

As for your last question, I am unable to tell for the reasons I cited above.

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[jeffbert]

Well let me see, for those who may come across this thread and this post, I will give you the titles of the episodes to which Jeffbert is referring. The first episode which is listed as episode# 96 is "The Robot, Future" known as epiosde# 87, "The Great Rocket Robbery" and tells the tale of a robot named Future because his inventor created him to be able to forecast different events, such as disasters,etc. Now the character to Jeffbert refers is known as "Dr. Goldthumb" in the Amercian version. The Tezuka website's synopsis for this episode lists him as Dr. Akuta. Looking at the character cast list for the epiosde in the "193", I see that there is a Dr. Akuta listed in the cast.

Episode# 97 known in the Tezuka website as "Confrontation in Space"; in Schodt's Astro Boy Essays, pg. 191 as "Space Showdown" and as American episode# 88, "Contest in Space" bears a resemblance in theme to the Star Trek episode. "The Arena" and to the Outer Limits episode, "Fun and Games". As I stated before I cut and pasted the English synopses for each episode in the book, which means certain portions of each page were covered over when I pasted the English synopses in. That is the case with episode# 97. But since it appears that only the synopsis for the episode detailing the action was done I would wager that no mention of any "inspiration" was mentioned; especially since I don't believe the Outer Limits episode may have not aired in Japan at the same time as Atom# 97 and the Star Trek episode I believe aired in North America in 1966 or 1967.

As for your last question, I am unable to tell for the reasons I cited above.

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Thanks, ASTROBUDDY; I don't know why I asked about Akuta, as I have the Tezuka website's notes myself, & thought it was pronounced as 'Ahk'ta', anyway. I must have been thinking of the other guy.

That info you posted about #97, it was from other sources was it not? I see no reference to it in the TRSI booklet, or Schodt's book. I do believe that it may have been inspired by TOL because its plot is actually much closer to FUN & GAMES, than to FREDRICK BROWN'S ARENA. I could list more than a few similarities.

BTW, I can send you scans of any portion that you may have pasted over, if you request them.

[ASTROBUDDY]

I just wanted to add for those who have never seen the original Astro Boy episode, "Contest in Space", the plot deals with an alien race abducting Earthlings, in this instance, Astro Boy and a crook named Scraps to do battle against members of another alien race to determine which race will be destroyed and which race will survive.

In the original Outer Limits episode, which starred the actor, Nick Adams, (For those who are not familiar with the actor, Nick Adams, he first came to prominence in the James Dean starrrer, "Rebel without a Cause" and was good friends with both Elvis Presley and James Dean. He was also the star of a TV western titled, "The Rebel" where he played a character named Johnny Yuma. His other credits include, "Die, Monster, Die" a film based on an H. P. Lovecraft story; "Godzilla vs. Monster Zero" and "Frankenstein Conquers the World", two Toho Studio productions.) Adams also plays a crook on the run, who runs into the apartment of a female stranger and then they are both abducted and transported to a world where they must do battle with two alien creatures for the survival of humankind.

In the classic Star Trek episode, reportedly based on a short story by author Fredric Brown titled "Arena", Kirk is transported to a planet where he must do battle with a Gorn, also where the loser is responsible for the destruction of his species.

I believe there was also an episode of "Lost in Space" which had a similar plot element! Any way this plot has been used on different sci-fi series.

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[ASTROBUDDY]

"Thanks, ASTROBUDDY; I don't know why I asked about Akuta, as I have the Tezuka website's notes myself, & thought it was pronounced as 'Ahk'ta', anyway. I must have been thinking of the other guy. "

You are right about the pronounciation as the letter u is sometimes silent in Japanese so that Akuta could be pronounced as Ahk'ta.

"That info you posted about #97, it was from other sources was it not? I see no reference to it in the TRSI booklet, or Schodt's book. I do believe that it may have been inspired by TOL because its plot is actually much closer to FUN & GAMES, than to FREDRICK BROWN'S ARENA. I could list more than a few similarities. "

According to " The Outer Limits Official Companion" by Schow & Frentzen, "Fun and Games' went into production in early 1964 and first aired in the U.S. on March 30, 1964. Someone from the Astro Boy show would have had to have been in the U.S. in March of '64 in order to see the episode as I do not believe the show was airing in Japan at that time.

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