Cost of upkeep, how's your allowance Astro?

[fafner]

I read that it was in the 1960's anime so is it canon compared to the manga?

With so many versions of same stories written by the legitimate author, I'm not sure the word "canon" as any clear meaning there

[Bigdog]

[QUOTE=Bigdog;172426]I read that it was in the 1960's anime so is it canon compared to the manga?

With so many versions of same stories written by the legitimate author, I'm not sure the word "canon" as any clear meaning there [/QUOTE]

OK. I'm just so used to other TV series like Avatar, Gundam ,Bleach and Dragonball having a consistent canon where it isn't redone and redone that its confusing. But at least it isn't as bad as Marvel where every reader has their own Spiderman , Xmen ....

I wish they would just pull a Turn a Gundam and combine all four series, (manga ,1960, 1980, 2003 and 2009 film) into one universe that makes some aspects canon to make new story that is. Each story is the truth , but fragmented and thus happened differently ,which confuses Astro even more as he is revived?

[diehard67]

I personal think that astro's mind would breakdown over time and eventually hi AI would just stop working, not from hardware failure but his memories getting degraded to the point that the thing just doesn't start.

kinda like human memories degrade over time, his memories and mind would be the same way, especially if his mind is a copy of tobio's

[the 鉄腕アトム fan]

I personal think that astro's mind would breakdown over time and eventually hi AI would just stop working, not from hardware failure but his memories getting degraded to the point that the thing just doesn't start.

kinda like human memories degrade over time, his memories and mind would be the same way, especially if his mind is a copy of Tobio's

you do have a point, but how are we going to make his memory storage/space big enough, you can't have infinity space/storage, or could we, how can we make that then?

[F-Man]

I read that it was in the 1960's anime so is it canon compared to the manga?

In manga form Tezuka made 3 different sequels to the anime. One of them he said shouldn't be taken seriously (Astro II). Another is the Astro Boy Tales (vol. 6 to 8) made shortly after the anime, but he later changed the beginning in newer editions so readers don't have to watch the show to make sense of it. And then finally there's Astro Returns which takes a similar story concept.

[Bigdog]

[QUOTE=Bigdog;172426]I read that it was in the 1960's anime so is it canon compared to the manga?

In manga form Tezuka made 3 different sequels to the anime. One of them he said shouldn't be taken seriously (Astro II). Another is the Astro Boy Tales (vol. 6 to 8) made shortly after the anime, but he later changed the beginning in newer editions so readers don't have to watch the show to make sense of it. And then finally there's Astro Returns which takes a similar story concept.[/QUOTE]

Ok, so the earlier manga series before the Anime isn't canon or is it like an alternate universe?

Did the 1980's anime ever get a manga sequel or was that just reserved for the first anime series?

[Androids101]

[QUOTE=diehard67;172497]I personal think that astro's mind would breakdown over time and eventually hi AI would just stop working, not from hardware failure but his memories getting degraded to the point that the thing just doesn't start.

kinda like human memories degrade over time, his memories and mind would be the same way, especially if his mind is a copy of Tobio's

you do have a point, but how are we going to make his memory storage/space big enough, you can't have infinity space/storage, or could we, how can we make that then? [/QUOTE]

Since his artificial brain isn't made out of living tissue, it would certainly take a long time to 'degrade'. In a sense, his mind is a copy of Tobio's, but in another sense, it isn't, since Tobio has a human brain while Astro has an artificial brain, presumerably hardware and not human tissue.



And this image proves that it is an artificial intelligence in a way, and not living human tissue.

I don't know if infinite data storage is possible, but, considering the fact that in today's computers it isn't, maybe its not. Maybe Astro could 'disgard' old memories, erase some of them or even get his memory chip replaced altogether.

[diehard67]

I wosn't talking about hardware degrading, but the data itself would get mucked up over time.

and his memory probably could be upgraded much like replacing a harddrive in a computer, but it would take a looooooooooonnng time to copy all the data over.

It has been estimated that the human brain can store 1,000,000 GB of data, to varying levels of reliability lol,
http://feeds.pbs.org/~r/pbs/wgbh/nova-video/~5/ZewY0MuvfMY/nsn_v_pod_artificialintelligence_110513.m4vthat would take a while to copy to a new disk lol

to put that in perspective, the fastest sata interface can move 6 gigabits/second, thats bits not bytes.
over that interface it would take a hear over 370 hours to transfer, if I did the math right, that is half a month. so for a memory upgrade he would be out for the better part of a month posibiley.

[F-Man]

[QUOTE=F-Man;172516][QUOTE=Bigdog;172426]I read that it was in the 1960's anime so is it canon compared to the manga?

In manga form Tezuka made 3 different sequels to the anime. One of them he said shouldn't be taken seriously (Astro II). Another is the Astro Boy Tales (vol. 6 to 8) made shortly after the anime, but he later changed the beginning in newer editions so readers don't have to watch the show to make sense of it. And then finally there's Astro Returns which takes a similar story concept.[/QUOTE]

Ok, so the earlier manga series before the Anime isn't canon or is it like an alternate universe?

Did the 1980's anime ever get a manga sequel or was that just reserved for the first anime series?[/QUOTE]

The anime was mostly an adaptation of the manga, but at one episode per week, it quickly ran out of stories to adapt and had to make new ones.

There was a manga series loosely based on the 1980's anime (most of vol. 23), but it changed a lot of things and was made for younger children.

Except for the first few episode of the 80's anime which showed a new origin for Astro, I see that series pretty much the same way as the first one: an adaptation of the manga with some new stories. There's even an episode where Astro's manga origin is mentioned, rather than the newly established one.

[fafner]

Maybe it depends on whether it is 1.000.000 Gb of raw or compressed data. I'm rather sure that the human brain doesn't store raw data: when you want to remember "AAAAAAAAAA", you don't remember the actual word, merely the fact that it is 10 times the letter 'A'. The same, when you want to remember a sentence, you don't just remember the series of letter, more the series of words, or even groups of words (according to concepts).

The more we grow, the less we store data by volume, even if we continue to learn a lot, because we build a lot on what we already know. The only moments when we actually store a lot by volume is when we learn entirely knew concepts, which doesn't happen so frequently.