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Postby AprilSeven » 13 years ago

OMG - 75,000 yen is $919.34!!!

**sighes** Another Tezuka thing I can't afford!!
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Postby jeffbert » 13 years ago

"ASTROBUDDY" wrote:17.) "Queen of the Wasteland" ("Jungle Kingdom") (""Jungle Mystery" (93)
18.) "Dolphin Civilization" ("Dolphins in Distress" (75)
19.) "Rafflesia" ("The Flower Monster" (61)
20.) "Cleopatra" ("Cleopatra's Heart" & "The Return of Cleopatra" (44 & 45)

Now if I understand it correctly Mozu Books is a store in Osaka, Japan and they have all 20 story books for sale for a mere 75,000yen.
(I'll let you guys figure out what that is in your currency, but it should be a bargain for a real collector!)

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I googled RAFFALESIA a while ago, & learned it is not only the largest flower, but a parasite, & the stinkiest of flowers. :sick: The idea of it crawling along seeking food is not so far-fetched as one might think. :lol:
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Postby ASTROBUDDY » 13 years ago

"AprilSeven" wrote:OMG - 75,000 yen is $919.34!!!

**sighes** Another Tezuka thing I can't afford!!


And guess what, you have not even factored in shipping and handling costs from Japan to the U.S.A. (And don't forget how the currency exchange market fluctuates!)

(But then again a bargain if you really must have them!)

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"ASTROBUDDY" wrote:[QUOTE=Takiko;195582][QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;195565] 11.) " Miss Uran's Adventure (The Greatest Robot on Earth (116 & 117) [The only book to feature episodes not included in the English dub.]
Okay, to clarify, the 1960's version of The Greatest Robot on Earth was not dubbed into English? (I tried looked up episode lists beyond Wikipedia but got annoyed.) I guess USA censorship took it out then?[/QUOTE] Yes, according to The Astro Boy Episode Guide of the 1960s series published by The Right Stuf, International, the later episodes of the Japanese series began to take on more serious material which at the time may not have seemed suitable for broadcast in the U.S.A. due to what may have been perceived as too violent or objectionable material for children's programming. That may have been the main reason "The Greatest Robot on Earth" was not dubbed. This is strange because these same episodes are featured so prominently in the later series. Any way the picture book itself features scenes from the episode that feature Uran chastising and arguing with Pluto when Atom shows up.

I :heart: :astro: :) [/QUOTE]Well that was not necessarily it they could also have cut the whole episode out the theme from the 1960 series was still was still humor right ?

For the most part NBC din't wanted Black and White anymore so they asked what Tezuka wanted to make next and Tezuka's answer was either : Son Goku,Prinncess Knight or Kimba NBC passed on the first two that they would also redject later on but they thought Kimba would be a good idea heavly edited from the origional concept of course :rolleyes:

But Tezuka agreed on doing so while he may had wanted to wait a bit longer for it because he saw the first Astro Boy anime as start up to get experience with animation and make it better as time went by but when NBC sad they would even fund it in Color he started Production on Kimba.

And Astro boy got sort of canceled in the US while still running in Japan for almost 2 years we never got the best episodes that would have been heavily edited anyway :( .

But talking about those books they look amazing i might look into them to buy them since i finaly got around learning japanse on a serious level though it probably will take years to learn Kanji.
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"Tetsuwan Atom" wrote:[QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;195585][QUOTE=Takiko;195582][QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;195565] 11.) " Miss Uran's Adventure (The Greatest Robot on Earth (116 & 117) [The only book to feature episodes not included in the English dub.]
Okay, to clarify, the 1960's version of The Greatest Robot on Earth was not dubbed into English? (I tried looked up episode lists beyond Wikipedia but got annoyed.) I guess USA censorship took it out then?[/QUOTE] Yes, according to The Astro Boy Episode Guide of the 1960s series published by The Right Stuf, International, the later episodes of the Japanese series began to take on more serious material which at the time may not have seemed suitable for broadcast in the U.S.A. due to what may have been perceived as too violent or objectionable material for children's programming. That may have been the main reason "The Greatest Robot on Earth" was not dubbed. This is strange because these same episodes are featured so prominently in the later series. Any way the picture book itself features scenes from the episode that feature Uran chastising and arguing with Pluto when Atom shows up. I :heart: :astro: :) [/QUOTE]Well that was not necessarily it they could also have cut the whole episode out the theme from the 1960 series was still was still humor right ? For the most part NBC din't wanted Black and White anymore so they asked what Tezuka wanted to make next and Tezuka's answer was either : Son Goku,Prinncess Knight or Kimba NBC passed on the first two that they would also redject later on but they thought Kimba would be a good idea heavly edited from the origional concept of course :rolleyes: But Tezuka agreed on doing so while he may had wanted to wait a bit longer for it because he saw the first Astro Boy anime as start up to get experience with animation and make it better as time went by but when NBC sad they would even fund it in Color he started Production on Kimba. And Astro boy got sort of canceled in the US while still running in Japan for almost 2 years we never got the best episodes that would have been heavily edited anyway :( . But talking about those books they look amazing i might look into them to buy them since i finaly got around learning japanse on a serious level though it probably will take years to learn Kanji.[/QUOTE] Here's the thing, Fred Ladd was contracted to dub 104 episodes and the last one dubbed was Jap. ep.# 124-"Parting Gift". "The Greatest Robot..." comprised episodes#s 116 & 117. According to Fred Ladd in his book about the production of the original Astro Boy series, the episodes were received in the U.S.A. in their numerical order. (Remember that the Japanese episodes featured numbered titles which were cut for the English Dub.) Ladd's staff would have to have seen those two episodes before #124 and then would have to have rejected #s 116 & 117 to get to #124. Therefore one wonders for what reason would they have rejected two episodes which would have brought them to their total of the contracted for 104 episodes, unless they felt they could not adapt them to pass NBC's Standards and Practices for children's programming. Thus the reasons would probably have been the ones I already cited plus the violent content which would probably not have passed muster at that time, but of course any reason is feasible.

The set of books would be a coup in any one's collection. I myself would be tempted if I already did not own four of the twenty. Any way if any one of you does purchase them good luck to you and please let us know if you have given them a new home.

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Postby jeffbert » 13 years ago

As I recall, Ladd said something about the fact that because the show would be distributed via syndication rather than networks, two-part stories were shunned. The only exception is the apparently 2-part Cleopatra story; though there is closure at the end of the 1st episode. So, though they can be viewed as one story, each part stands on its own.

I too, was wondering why some of the stories had been passed-by. :lol:
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Postby ASTROBUDDY » 13 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:As I recall, Ladd said something about the fact that because the show would be distributed via syndication rather than networks, two-part stories were shunned. The only exception is the apparently 2-part Cleopatra story; though there is closure at the end of the 1st episode. So, though they can be viewed as one story, each part stands on its own. I too, was wondering why some of the stories had been passed-by. :lol:


While I don't recall reading or hearing anything about Ladd saying that two-part episodes should be avoided, it does seem like another factor. Of course since the stations all received as part of the syndicated package material, a proposed list of the airing order, (this is what was used to determine the order of the episodes when making the episode guides), the problem of airing two-part episodes in sequence could have been fixed. Still as you say Ladd's staff may have found it easier to avoid these two-parters, although there weren't that many, and concentrate on single episodes.

So obviously there were apparently many factors that went into deciding which episodes should be or not be dubbed.

Thank you, Jeffbert in helping to solve this mystery.

So think you might want to add these books to your collection?

BTW, have you found the original version of "Jungle Kingdom" in your copies of Kobunsha Shonen originals?

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Postby jeffbert » 13 years ago

"ASTROBUDDY" wrote:BTW, have you found the original version of "Jungle Kingdom" in your copies of Kobunsha Shonen originals?
I :heart: :astro: :)

edit: STRANGEWINGS had translated the data from the 193 book on those 2 eps, & it indicated they were not among any reprints.

Regarding the 5 units (of 7) that I have: For the most part, only the Shonen comics were reprinted; though in UNIT 7 there were those from, as I recall, the MIGHTY ATOM CLUB. I still have yet to finish reviewing and pulling notes from UNIT 6, so it will be a while before I even begin with 7.
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Postby ASTROBUDDY » 13 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:[QUOTE=ASTROBUDDY;195700]BTW, have you found the original version of "Jungle Kingdom" in your copies of Kobunsha Shonen originals?
I :heart: :astro: :)

edit: STRANGEWINGS had translated the data from the 193 book on those 2 eps, & it indicated they were not among any reprints.

Regarding the 5 units (of 7) that I have: For the most part, only the Shonen comics were reprinted; though in UNIT 7 there were those from, as I recall, the MIGHTY ATOM CLUB. I still have yet to finish reviewing and pulling notes from UNIT 6, so it will be a while before I even begin with 7.[/QUOTE]

Yes, after I left that last post, I remembered that "Jungle Kingdom" was not published by Kobunsha, but by Mushi Prod. in their "TetsuWan Atomu Club" magazine.

Here's another reason why "The Greatest Robot..." may not have been chosen. It's as plain as the cover of "Uran's Adventure". Take a gander below and tell me if you don't see another reason why the episodes may have had trouble in the U.S.A. at that time!

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Postby AprilSeven » 13 years ago

Yeah, I noticed that earlier! I remember reading how Walt Disney had to put "bikini tops" of flowers on some of the characters from "Fantasia" (I think it was the female centaurs).

But little Uran doesn't have "anything" to cover up! :d oh: Actually that is an adorable picture. She just wants to fly like her big bro! :wub: But yeah, that wouldn't have gone over well here . . .
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