Atom and Uran as lovers? O_o

[Earthshine]

As someone who is in an adopted family situation ANY thought of a relationship with my 'siblings' however not related through blood is absolutely revolting, and nothing can convince me otherwise.

I know it can be difficult for people to understand the concept that siblings and incest are not always necessarily linked though blood and nature, especially when they themselves have not adopted someone into their family who is not blood related as family.

It always bothered me growing up people calling my older brother (who unfortunately is no longer with us) "not my real brother" when in fact he was my brother and dare I say a better role model than my blood brother.

So yes, the textbook definition of incest does involve blood ties (that is inarguable) but to me it transcends that. If you call a person your sibling then they are family, which can be a deeper and more meaningful bond than a romantic partner anyway.

As for the topic itself I think my opinion is obvious. They are siblings and also based on child designs so any romantic urges should obviously be purged from the mind as quickly as possible regardless of the fact that they are not organic.

[Tetsuwan Penguin]

Earthshine:
Yes, if someone enters your family as a sibling though adoption when you were both children, that is quite obvious, and I agree with that.

Let's just say that in my story there were special circumstances at work, including old age, and nearness of death. Also it was written in a 'PG' manor.

[Earthshine]

That I understand perfectly, it's just my own personal definition as applied to me that has me really twitchy about some people and their 'shippings' if it were.

I have more people in my family that are not blood related, most I have known from when I was really small and others that didn't even come into my life until I was a teenager. So for me I can get pretty twitchy. As I said hearing things like "they're not real siblings" as if being blood is only defining characteristic for sibling love gets me very angry. It also angers me in general when people try to claim that one type of love is 'better' than another, that there essentially is no sibling love and the only kind that exists is romantic love.

In my life my blood family to be blunt has been rather abrasive, as such my adoptive family the comfort I received from my siblings showed me what a true family is and that blood is not what defines family at all. Sure it helps, and ideally blood should be together in love and harmony - but I couldn't have that.

Of course I'm not saying that your story is disgusting and wrong and amoral but rather explaining why I have such an issue with incest and the overall view of it. Some people can be pretty insensitive by throwing the 'well they're not blood so they can be romantic all they want and it's not wrong and in fact they should get together because there's no real reason not to' kind of mindset. I just notice it a lot more than the average person.

[tailz]

I agree with you Earthshine! There is definitely a thing such as sibling love, not just romantic love. Apparently, I have nothing else to say.

So, are you saying that it's disgusting when two siblings are in love with each other Earthshine? I can't really understand what you're trying to say.

[Earthshine]

What I am saying can be summed up in the following;

1.) blood is not required to have "real" family and siblings.
2.) For me personally incest is not just defined by blood relations, even though the textbook definition is different.
3.) Sibling love is very different from romantic love, but is beautiful just the way it is and doesn't need to 'morph' into something different.
4.) I personally have a problem with incest depicted in media as being not incest when it actually could verily be considered as such.

All in all it's people's lives and they are free to do whatever they want, I just have my own issues when it comes to incest and certain fans of certain things that like to pair siblings up together as romantic partners because they are not blood related.

I don't know how I can make this clearer.

[Tetsuwan Penguin]

I don't think I had romantic love between them in mind when I wrote that. It was a relationship on a different level. I never tried to imply a sexual relationship, though it got close. Think of the way that puppies in the same litter snuggle together to keep warm and you get the idea, except there is an emotional aspect too.

[jeffbert]

The thing with incest is that it makes genetic weaknesses that much more likely to result in birth defects, since both male & female have the same genetic roots. Phoenix uses incest, though only as a necessity, given the importance of continuing the species.

[Earthshine]

@ Tetsuwan: I can understand that. There are a lot of siblings that are very physical when it comes to showing affection and to a lot of people on the outside looking in it might really look like something else is going on in their relationship when really they are just close.

Incest really is mostly a psychological and social stigma down to the core of it all. Afterall if the argument about incest = blood relations only - then technically being romantic physically with a person sharing the same grandparents would not be an issue what-so -ever as genetically the both of you would be more or less strangers. But most people would disagree on the spot about that and declare it as incest, which it may or may not be at that point (gray area there for me I admit).

The concept of incest is socially defined.

Anyway enough of that. I've said all I need to for my opinion on the matter.

[Juanita]

Atom and Uran as lovers? O_o

[Windswept Cloak]

I can't can't CAN'T imagine Atomu and Uran as boyfriend and girlfriend, that's crazy.

Whoever came up with that idea IS crazy if you ask me.