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i think ghost's and are very intersting to know about them becuase i once my squadron when out to see a old warplane hanger for old B-52's and i spoke to this pilot he must of been about 85 or more but anyway he showed us about and in this b-52 we saw was a gray shadow my friend was the one who saw it me and my friends where all talking to each-other about the thing in the cock-pit we where all kinda sceared exseped my other friend he got all brave and got a step ladder to see in side the cock-pit we where all laughting becuase we knew he was faking it... in the end he jumped of the ladder screaming out there's a f****** ghost in there then half of my friend ran out of the hanger and the reat of us just continued to follow the old guy around the hanger... but i tell you what it was funny and sceary
I guess I feel the same way as Fafner about ghosts, but my methodology is far less rigorous. 
Nearly every ghost story I've heard has either been
a) in someone's bedroom or house, close to when they've been sleeping
b) in a place where they expected ghosts to be
Which leads me to think it's more likely a way of explaining unusual sensory experiences, or people just not investigating things properly (there's far less ghost sightings by people who don't believe in ghosts).
But I think that even Fafner would have to agree that, scientifically, the existance of ghosts can never actually be disproven.
Nearly every ghost story I've heard has either been
a) in someone's bedroom or house, close to when they've been sleeping
b) in a place where they expected ghosts to be
Which leads me to think it's more likely a way of explaining unusual sensory experiences, or people just not investigating things properly (there's far less ghost sightings by people who don't believe in ghosts).
But I think that even Fafner would have to agree that, scientifically, the existance of ghosts can never actually be disproven.
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DrFrag wrote:I guess I feel the same way as Fafner about ghosts, but my methodology is far less rigorous.
a) in someone's bedroom or house, close to when they've been sleeping
b) in a place where they expected ghosts to be
Which leads me to think it's more likely a way of explaining unusual sensory experiences, or people just not investigating things properly (there's far less ghost sightings by people who don't believe in ghosts).
I have to agree, it also occured to me. But I guess that in theory, one could argue that ghosts are always around us but that we have to be in a specific psychological and/or physical state to perceive them.
That said, even though some of you (or all?
) might think I firmly tend to believe in all kinds of paranormal events after reading about my weird experiences, I actually feel I belong to the sceptics camp.
As I was saying just grab a plushie like this little guy and get some sleep.
Sorry for the giant GAP if there is one. AND keep in mind this image is not mine and is used on another site.
Edit: YEAH sorry no idea how to fix this gap it is not there on my PC when I load the pic I'm stumpped I will take it down if you want.
Sorry for the giant GAP if there is one. AND keep in mind this image is not mine and is used on another site.
Edit: YEAH sorry no idea how to fix this gap it is not there on my PC when I load the pic I'm stumpped I will take it down if you want.
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Not sure Stitch would be the best plushie to feel secure, he might be far more dangerous than an army of real hostile ghosts
As far as I know, at least on a theoretical basis, it is easier to prove that ghosts exist than to prove they don't exist.
To prove that ghosts exist, just exhibate one and it's done (with scientific method of course). That is, if they actually exist
To prove they don't exist, one must prove that the existence of ghosts is impossible, for example by proving that according to physical laws of Nature it is impossible for a ghost to exist. This of course needs a 100% accurate knowledge of said laws, which are at best incomplete today, and unlikely to happen in a reasonable future.
Explanations of ghosts could be, as usually thought, reapparition of dead people for many reasons: "visit" living people, wanting to finish an unfinished job, etc. It might as well be short interaction between 2 parallel universes if one consider the theory of multiple universes to be true. In such a case, images from one universe could "leak" to another one, although to my knowledge such occurences are unlikely since according to this theory parallel universes can't communicate in any way. Nevertheless, it could be a good explanation for Astro Forever's apparition: her mother in a parallel universe has actually gone into her daughter's bedroom, and her image could have "leaked" to our present universe
However, since no ghosts were ever observed on a reproductible and measurable way, and because the simplest explanation is often the correct one, I think they are all images of our imperfect senses. However, if I could discuss about that with an actual ghost, be sure I would consider seriously believing in ghosts
DrFrag wrote:But I think that even Fafner would have to agree that, scientifically, the existance of ghosts can never actually be disproven.
As far as I know, at least on a theoretical basis, it is easier to prove that ghosts exist than to prove they don't exist.
To prove that ghosts exist, just exhibate one and it's done (with scientific method of course). That is, if they actually exist
To prove they don't exist, one must prove that the existence of ghosts is impossible, for example by proving that according to physical laws of Nature it is impossible for a ghost to exist. This of course needs a 100% accurate knowledge of said laws, which are at best incomplete today, and unlikely to happen in a reasonable future.
Explanations of ghosts could be, as usually thought, reapparition of dead people for many reasons: "visit" living people, wanting to finish an unfinished job, etc. It might as well be short interaction between 2 parallel universes if one consider the theory of multiple universes to be true. In such a case, images from one universe could "leak" to another one, although to my knowledge such occurences are unlikely since according to this theory parallel universes can't communicate in any way. Nevertheless, it could be a good explanation for Astro Forever's apparition: her mother in a parallel universe has actually gone into her daughter's bedroom, and her image could have "leaked" to our present universe
However, since no ghosts were ever observed on a reproductible and measurable way, and because the simplest explanation is often the correct one, I think they are all images of our imperfect senses. However, if I could discuss about that with an actual ghost, be sure I would consider seriously believing in ghosts
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Sparx wrote:the blue on is stich... but who's the other one?
It was drawn by this guy:
http://www.spadges-den.net/
I don't really know him and he took down that pic since then. The point is he is happy.
Stitch is loveable and he can protect you he faought off heartless in KH2 for gods sake
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Also how did you get it to work that small?!
Edit: WOW guess he decided to put the pic back up anyway he drew it not me.
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Theory of the Multiverse is awesome, I'm writing a story on it right now if anyone wants to read it. BUt be warned it is a bit odd for some peoples taste here I think.
There could be a universe where ghosts are as plain as day.
There could be a universe where ghosts are as plain as day.
"You're wrong. The heart may be weak, and sometimes, it may even give in. But I know, deep inside it, there is a light that never goes out."-Sora
1magus wrote:Theory of the Multiverse is awesome, I'm writing a story on it right now if anyone wants to read it. BUt be warned it is a bit odd for some peoples taste here I think.
I like weird stories, and I like checking consistencies in weird stories too
Gimme gimme gimme 1magus wrote:There could be a universe where ghosts are as plain as day.
The series Sliders explored a lot this theory (although they plainly violate the non-communication principle). I am fairly sure that one of the episodes featured ghosts.
However, you must not mix multiverse as the bubble universe theory where the universes are all distinct, with the many-worlds interpretation where all universes are continuously forking. In the former, each universe can have a different set of rules, while the later implies that all universes have the exact same set of rules. In the later, that means that if ghosts are impossible in one universe, they are impossible in all of them.
For fun, you can imagine that both theories are true: a many-worlds universe within bubble universes
I guess logic and mathematics of such a thing would be fun 
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