Originally posted by cybotron+Jun 20 2004, 03:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cybotron @ Jun 20 2004, 03:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I Just finished watching Dragon Lake... Not bad, not bad at all.
Well Faf. That Dragon Lake episode was right on.
Dragon Lake preview clik here. :wahah: 
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That's kind of you, but my internet connection is not really good, so I got only something like 1 image per second
Moreover no technique I know to predownload the data on disk could work
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I must disagree that Astro was betrayed by Tenma... Tenma is an obvious metaphor for God the creator.[/quote]
I remember a book on Star Wars where an old Jedi managed to rapt a young jedi, and tortured him very cruelly with a device called "the Embrace of Pain" :wacko: Then other cruel tests followed like hunts in hostile environments where only the strongest survived. When asked by the young Jedi why he did that, the old one answered: "To help you" Answer from the young Jedi: "If you want to help me then pull me out of this!" - "That would not help you. That would doom you."
The old Jedi then told a story where many years ago, on Coruscant, he had helped a butterfly to exit from its cocoon because he was to weak to exit by itself. This caused the butterfly to have weak wings because too few blood came to them when the butterfly tried to exit its cocoon. By helping the butterfly, the old Jedi had doomed it.
When the 2 Jedi were retrieved, the old one was jailed and seriously suspected to be of the Dark Side of the Force. It happened later he proved it wasn't the case, but he admitted that he wasn't sure that what he did was good, only future would tell if it was.
This recalls me of what Dr. Tenma does to Astro. Dr. Tenma is extremely cruel toward Astro, but it is true that it forces Astro to evolve. Either this is a good thing or a bad thing is subject to interpretation and to what will occur in the future.
But there is a slight difference: in both cases, Astro and the young Jedi managed to biaise the tests by using compassion. The old Jedi was pleasanlty surprised by that, and he was proud of his "student" for that. He even admitted that the young one had become the teacher at this occasion. In the case of Dr. Tenma, in "the fall of Acheron", Dr. Tenma was surprised by the fact that compassion managed to solve the crisis, but did not seem to admit that it was indeed a solution.
Now for the metaphore of God, Cybotron, I think I have another interpretation
I see a man who is playing God rather than being a metaphore of God. In modern civilization, many scientists try to make what is admitted to be "the work of God" (in the case he/she does exist), for example by manipulating DNA to create new species. Creating an artifical life, like Astro is, is another example, but is still science-fiction today. But Dr. Tenma, in my opinion, is even playing apprentice sorcerer. By forcing a robot to evolve with brutality, and even
intending to evolve by brutality, he takes the risk to create a living form who will be brutal itself, especially toward the one who imposes such tests. And to the ones similar to him. That could ends up like in Terminator III : machines/robots turning against their masters :wacko:
Dr. Tenma is indeed taking huge risks !
Or maybe he intends robots to take the place of humanity?<_<
That doesn't look like the behaviour of a responsible God to me
Maybe it's the time to try (discretly) to come back on topic: maybe this will end like in the "Gotterdamerung": humans taked the place of Gods, now robots/machines will take the place of humans. Nothing new
And next?
The real sign that someone has become a fanatic is that he completely loses his sense of humor about some important facet of his life. When humor goes, it means he's lost his perspective.
Wedge Antilles
Star Wars - Exile
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