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Postby fafner » 20 years ago

Originally posted by laszlo+Oct 22 2004, 05:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (laszlo @ Oct 22 2004, 05:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Stop trying to intimidate me by telling me you know my IP address. Virtual addresses in vitual spaces mean nothing particularly to an upwardly mobile robot like myself, and you are moving off topic.

The first real laszlo/Bender.[/b]

Ok, I'll stop as it doesn't work :P Mind if I send it to you now you have an account or you'll take it again as an intimidation? ;)

Originally posted by -laszlo@Oct 22 2004, 05:27 AM
Your logic is very broken. Firstly Astroboy's brain is atomic powered, howerver there is mention of his rocket boosters in his feet. These must use some form of solid, gas or liquid fuel that is burnt to propel him, or there would be no flame emitted when he uses them. Even considering significant advances in neuclear physics, there is no way a fission or fusion engine of the size of Astroboy would be able to produce this sort of propulsion.

I totally agree with you. However you were the one to propose solar panels as a replacement. Maybe you will care to explain us how this will change anything?

Originally posted by -laszlo@Oct 22 2004, 05:27 AM
Secondly I don't see any real point in refuting everything that is hurled at me. Most of it is obviously tripe and thefore beneath my contempt to think about let alone put IO time in.

Since you were the first one to hurl something, it seems logical you care to answer when you are yourself hurled something at in response, don't you think?

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Can we stick to the real topic which is not me but Astroboy and his abject hopelessness as a role model for children?

When I was a young robot I never went all gooey at the or a bird in flight. I fried it with my death ray and served it up to my humans for lunch.
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So you think Astro is a bad model for children? Would you propose Bender instead?
What is the problem with Astro in the first place? Is it because he "wastes fossil fuels"? There is nothing about that in any anime I saw. You say it is technically impossible but as a replacemenent you propose something that is technically equivalent. And to terminate, each time Astro runs out of energy, his jets are weakening too, proving it comes from his batteries, which are not fossil fuels.
I am also surprised you didn't try to contest the fact that a machine can think, nor the fact that human memories can be "uploaded" to a mineral brain. You know what? This is called "science-fiction", the author is allowed to suppose true things that may be false, like the possibility to create movement solely from pure energy, having robots that think and can have human memories.
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Postby laszlo » 20 years ago

Listen here, fafner boy, the mere fact you want to live in a world full of astroboy where science fiction takes hold is scary. To have "the author allowed to suppose true things that may be false, like the possibility to create movement solely from pure energy, having robots that think and can have human memories. " is not only misleading for children but creates a fantasy world that will never be achieved. Let's be honest here, who really wants a happy pappy world? it is not a true reflection on reality. I would prefer an Astroboy show where Astroboy does not do his homework, is put on dedention for spitting on girls and plays Playstation all day. (of course, playing something like Grand Theft Auto).
Who, these days, actually goes around the world helping people?
I mean in George Bush and John Howard can get revoted in their respective countries, then we really need shows that decipt their EVIL DARK FAR RIGHT WING beliefs.
I say we need Astroboyski - modelled on the war on Iraq where you can strike a country with no proof of weapons of mass destruction and then brain wash stupid citizens of your country by dictating a scare campaign.
Now THAT'S a real Astroboy story!

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Postby jeffbert » 20 years ago

Originally posted by laszlo@Nov 4 2004, 09:52 PM
Listen here, fafner boy, the mere fact you want to live in a world full of astroboy where science fiction takes hold is scary. To have "the author allowed to suppose true things that may be false, like the possibility to create movement solely from pure energy, having robots that think and can have human memories. " is not only misleading for children but creates a fantasy world that will never be achieved. Let's be honest here, who really wants a happy pappy world? it is not a true reflection on reality. I would prefer an Astroboy show where Astroboy does not do his homework, is put on dedention for spitting on girls and plays Playstation all day. (of course, playing something like Grand Theft Auto).
Who, these days, actually goes around the world helping people?
I mean in George Bush and John Howard can get revoted in their respective countries, then we really need shows that decipt their EVIL DARK FAR RIGHT WING beliefs.
I say we need Astroboyski - modelled on the war on Iraq where you can strike a country with no proof of weapons of mass destruction and then brain wash stupid citizens of your country by dictating a scare campaign.
Now THAT'S a real Astroboy story!

I will try to leave politics out of this, but your response is typically lacking in evidence, logic, & anything else that might otherwise have made it the least bit credible.

1st. Who cares whether or not it is realistic? Apparently nobody but you. I myself like to escape from the life I lead in a good story every once in a while.

2nd. You seem to be employing a quotation, but you fail to cite its source. If these are your own words, why use quotation marks?

3rd. Please do not try to make Astroboy into a robotic Bart Simpson.

4th. Your political references completely lack any supporting evidence. Should we believe them or give them even the smallest amount of credibilty just becuase you wrote them? Not a chance! :lol:
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Postby fafner » 20 years ago

Originally posted by laszlo@Nov 5 2004, 02:52 AM
Listen here, fafner boy, the mere fact you want to live in a world full of astroboy where science fiction takes hold is scary. To have "the author allowed to suppose true things that may be false, like the possibility to create movement solely from pure energy, having robots that think and can have human memories. " is not only misleading for children but creates a fantasy world that will never be achieved. Let's be honest here, who really wants a happy pappy world? it is not a true reflection on reality. I would prefer an Astroboy show where Astroboy does not do his homework, is put on dedention for spitting on girls and plays Playstation all day. (of course, playing something like Grand Theft Auto).
Who, these days, actually goes around the world helping people?
I mean in George Bush and John Howard can get revoted in their respective countries, then we really need shows that decipt their EVIL DARK FAR RIGHT WING beliefs.
I say we need Astroboyski - modelled on the war on Iraq where you can strike a country with no proof of weapons of mass destruction and then brain wash stupid citizens of your country by dictating a scare campaign.
Now THAT'S a real Astroboy story!

You apparently belong to those cynical people whose best description is "idealists whose wings are badly burnt by reality". I am quite cynical myself but not to the point I can't hope for something better. But just a note... Astroboy universe is not my ideal. Going around to help people is not exactly my ideal, even if I do sometimes when I can, it is just not my way of life. And I don't understand why you blame Astroboy universe for not being real when you speak about "playing on a playstation". This is by definition proposing fictious universe :o
Moreover, according to what you say, we should ban all that is not real, that is most books, movies ... But also all researches because they often deal with things that are not real as they don't exist yet. I would not like to live in a world where you decide what should or should not be :wacko:
Ok that's enough. Obviously you are bashing, and discussing with you is a waste of time. I will offer you ONE LAST POST to prove yourself, or at least advance, after that I will ignore you forever. Maybe after that you will get what you deserved from the beginning: the immensity of the silent void as the only anwser to your useless bashing.

Don't waste your last post.
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Postby Breakman » 20 years ago

Originally posted by laszlo@Nov 5 2004, 11:52 AM
then we really need shows that decipt their EVIL DARK FAR RIGHT WING beliefs.

Err... I don't know if I ever talked to you, Laszlo, (Sir? Mam?) but you surely never read or watched Astro Boy much. *heavy sweatdrops* I would really think Astro is leaning on the left area more than the right. (But I still love him! *huggles*) Or maybe neutral. Anyways, he doesn't need a Wing, he has rocket boosters. :P

Oh yea, you think you are a robot? Now who is living in a fantasy world?

Why do you love to feed off and on hate? Go to somewhere people would agree with you or like the same shows/anime/movies you like too? But I guess you want the attention that much... how sad...


Offtopic:
Wow, I really love cheesecake! My favorite is the baked type. It's more like a pie than a cake and it tastes creamy and tart (in a way). Anyone like cheesecake?

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Postby Strange Wings » 20 years ago

Originally posted by Breakman@Nov 5 2004, 04:00 PM
Offtopic:
Wow, I really love cheesecake! My favorite is the baked type. It's more like a pie than a cake and it tastes creamy and tart (in a way). Anyone like cheesecake?

Yeah, that's very tasty.
For the dessert I would recommend a fine Tiramisù.
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Postby O2Destroyer » 20 years ago

Originally posted by Breakman@Nov 6 2004, 01:00 AM

Offtopic:
Wow, I really love cheesecake! My favorite is the baked type. It's more like a pie than a cake and it tastes creamy and tart (in a way). Anyone like cheesecake?

Aren't most standard cheesecakes baked or am I missing something? I don't think I've had a cheesecake for months and now I want one. MMMMMMMmmmmmmm....

Crap, it's Autumn and I haven't had a good pumpkin pie yet, now that would hit the spot!
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Postby fafner » 20 years ago

Originally posted by Breakman@Nov 5 2004, 04:00 PM
Offtopic:
Wow, I really love cheesecake! My favorite is the baked type. It's more like a pie than a cake and it tastes creamy and tart (in a way). Anyone like cheesecake?

By far the most interesting topic in this discussion since... errr, well... the beginning :P
I wonder whether last one I ate one I even already knew Astro? :unsure: I should really consider eating another one just to remember how it tastes :D
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Postby jeffbert » 20 years ago

Originally posted by Sam@Nov 10 2004, 09:46 PM
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Astro boy is boring!!!!

Sam, you are a dufis. It is just not enough to make such a statement, anybody can say anything. I, for one will pay no heed to such gratuitous assertions. The burden of proof is on you. you must cite some evidence in support of it. :D
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