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Postby fafner » 20 years ago

Originally posted by adrian _68+May 12 2005, 03:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adrian _68 @ May 12 2005, 03:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--DrFrag@May 10 2005, 08:45 AM
Because red is a girl's colour, and the Sith are big girly-men. :P

Hahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was the funniest Dr. Frag![/b][/quote]
Errr well :unsure: Who will say that to Lord Vader? :huh:
No ! :o not my throat :wacko:
I meant to the emperor My Lord ^_^
Arghhh!!!!! NOOOOO!!! THAT BURNS !!!!! :cry:

Phew... those Sith guys are definately not gentlemen <_<
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Postby adrian _68 » 20 years ago

You people argue so much about Star Wars. :lol:
To tell you frankly, if not because of the lightsabers I would not be watching star wars. I really did not enjoy the old sequels because not much lightsaber combats unlike in the episode 1-3. I know that the only jedi living in Episode 4-6 is at first will be Obi wan and Yoda and the last will be Luke but the jedi knights really made star wars cool, without them Star Wars would just be another sci-fi movie for me.

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Postby fafner » 20 years ago

Originally posted by adrian _68@May 12 2005, 10:26 PM
To tell you frankly, if not because of the lightsabers I would not be watching star wars. I really did not enjoy the old sequels because not much lightsaber combats unlike in the episode 1-3.

Don't forget space dogfights ;) Personnally, I enjoy them almost as much as lightsabers duels :D
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Postby 1magus » 20 years ago

Hey if anyone here has seen Spaceballs they are making another one however I'm not Quite sure it will be the same people since the guy who played Barfolemew 'Barf' is dead :( so that will be tough.
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Postby DrFrag » 20 years ago

Yeah, but Mel Brooks is writing and directing it again so it should be decent. Plus he's got a whole new Star Wars trilogy to make fun of! :D

As for Star Wars, I never understood why light sabres were never utilised more in commercial and industrial areas. Think about it - what better way to cut someone out of a car wreck? Or cut up scrap metal for salvage? Or slice meat while cooking it at the same time?
I know, I know, they changed it so only Jedi's could fashion a light sabre.
Speaking of which, if you got a blood transfusion from a Jedi, would the midichlorians turn you into a Jedi?
And if, as Obi Wan/Yoda said, the Force is all around us including in the rocks, surely the midichlorian detecter would have midichlorians in it and mess up its readings?
Man, they sure screwed things up with the Phantom Menace. To quote Robot Chicken:

Vader: Turn to the dark side and join me!
Luke: I'll never join you! You killed my father!
Vader: No, Luke. I am your father!
Luke: That's not true! That's impossible!
Vader: And Princess Leia is your sister!
Luke: That's not true! That's ... improbable!
Vader: And The Empire will be defeated by Ewoks!
Luke: Thats ... very unlikely.
Vader: And as a child, I built C3PO!
Luke: Huh?
...
Vader: And the Force? Well that's just microscopic bacteria in your bloodstream called Midichlorians.
Luke (with a cigarette): Look, if you're not gonna take this seriously, I'm out.
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Postby jeffbert » 20 years ago

Originally posted by O2Destroyer@May 9 2005, 09:57 PM
You know, I've finally come to a decision regarding Lucas. I'm just going to stop treating the man like he's smart. I've seen documentaries about him emphasizing his deep understanding of folklore and storytelling and his connections to Joseph Campbell, but honestly, like any educated person I've read Campbell too, and what Lucas takes from Campbell you could get from reading the blurbs on the back of his books.

I'm tired of thinking there is any depth behind Lucas's designs or story--honestly, I find it remarkable at this late date that Star Wars ever worked at all; it is afterall a pretty wacky sci-fi pulp story that lacks both the maturity of good science fiction or the true strangeness of the pulps. Star Wars is the stuff of future power metal albums!

It all hits home when you realize Lucas has never really made a good film...well, maybe one. A new hope was probably some lucky accident, a work of dedication and love that would have put him in the poor house forever if it failed.

Lucas didn't make Empire.

Return of the Jedi? *sighs* Willow? *even bigger sigh* The new star wars movies??? c'mon!

Why do people give Lucas the credit for having put so much thought into everything he's done--I think if anything the fans have done more to create the star wars universe than Lucas ever did.

Then of course he keeps making his movies worse (I refuse to buy the 'improved' versions of star wars).

Actually, when it comes down to it, I think Lucas is out right nuts, and if the light sabers of the bad guys are all red, its probably because he thought it looked cool at the time

Sorry to be so down on the man, but as someone who saw A New Hope as a kid at its premier and grew up convinced that Star Wars WAS the greateest thing ever, perspective adds something. You start to see all the things you thought were cool or insightful and realize they were just ripped right out of something else, and when Lucas finally did get his chance to do things precisely the way he wanted, we get a sort of sci-fi disney out of the man.

Blah!

I have read some Campbell and also seen the interview at Skywalker ranch. I fully agree that in Luke Skywalker is found the Hero's journey as expressed by Campbell. He exemplifies the struggles in many people. When one is faced by such a situation as Luke was, he first turns away. "It's not my problem." Then, he finds himself drawn into it , as though there were no other course of action to take. Luke's relatives were dead, the farm was a smoldering wreck, he had nowhere else to turn. So, he began the Hero's journey, just like in The Hero with 1000 faces. I think many people identified with these phases as they viewed the first film made (ep 4), and that in part is what accounts for its popularity.

I think the characters and their relationships and conflicts also contributed much toward the success of this series. Han Solo's peasant origin and his promotion to general and his acceptance by the princess. Rags to riches. Their initial conflict eventually yields to love. Hence, the romantic content.

Ok, I thought the Ewoks were really dumb, and the ending of 'Jedi' was mushy, but it was entertaining, none the less. I think that it was designed to be more appealing to kids, than any of the others before it. & that is important because the 'r' rated films are not nearly as popular as 'PG-13,' which are not nearly as popular as 'PG.' Many people want movies that are kid-friendly. They want to spend time together, doing something that might not be so appealing to adults, but is to kids. Hence, the popularity of 'ET,' and other 'PG' rated films. 'Nuff said.

I will admit that the prequels did not meet my expectations, except for the inclusion of Christopher Lee as the villian.

About the light sabers: I believe the red and green together create a brilliant contrast. Other than that, I see little significance in the colors, except that red is associated with 'stop' while green is 'go'. Thus the negative and positive connotations of these colors. The bad guy uses red, 'stop' while the hero uses green 'go'.

Anybody can sit around and criticize movies. The popularity speaks for itself, though.
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Postby Strange Wings » 20 years ago

I'm going to see 'The revenge Of The Sith' next thursday. I'm quite interested about the change of Anakin into Darth Vader.

I hope I'll manage to stay awake tho. It's a midnight run, starting at 00:45 AM :unsure: .
Fortunately I took the day off, otherwise I would find me sleeping at our printshop's floor.
I'm not very used to stay awake that long :huh: .
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Postby adrian _68 » 20 years ago


Vader: Turn to the dark side and join me!
Luke: I'll never join you! You killed my father!
Vader: No, Luke. I am your father!
Luke: That's not true! That's impossible!
Vader: And Princess Leia is your sister!
Luke: That's not true! That's ... improbable!
Vader: And The Empire will be defeated by Ewoks!
Luke: Thats ... very unlikely.
Vader: And as a child, I built C3PO!
Luke: Huh?
...
Vader: And the Force? Well that's just microscopic bacteria in your bloodstream called Midichlorians.
Luke (with a cigarette): Look, if you're not gonna take this seriously, I'm out.




Funny, funny :D



Anyway, about te fact of lightsaber commercialization, I think it is not possible yet to create a real lightsaber and I think everyone could use them not only jedi because in one scenes of Star Wars, Han Solo used Luke's lightsaber to cut open an animal of some sort while they are caught in the snowstorm

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Postby DrFrag » 20 years ago

Originally posted by adrian _68@May 14 2005, 07:43 PM
Anyway, about te fact of lightsaber commercialization, I think it is not possible yet to create a real lightsaber and I think everyone could use them not only jedi because in one scenes of Star Wars, Han Solo used Luke's lightsaber to cut open an animal of some sort while they are caught in the snowstorm

Yeah, I meant making a lightsabre. I think in the movies onle Jedis were able to make them.
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Postby fafner » 20 years ago

Originally posted by DrFrag@May 13 2005, 03:32 AM
[b]Vader: And The Empire will be defeated by Ewoks!
Luke: Thats ... very unlikely.[/b]

Although said this way it sounds silly, I don't think it is so strange that a pack of Ewoks defeated the Empire. First they fought on their territory, a dense forest. Imperial walkers lose some advantages there. Second, if we look closely, the Ewoks are not the ones who really won the battle: Chewbacca took an imperial walker and used it against the other ones. So technically the Ewoks made a diversion and allowed actions that would not have been possible otherwise, namely take an imperial walker, and use it to destroy others and ultimately to lure the garrison outside by faking a victory over the Ewoks.
What really happened, is that the Ewoks alone would have never defeated the imperial garrison. But the rebels could never have defeated the same garrison without the help of the Ewoks. They were essential for the victory over that small garrison, that allowed the deactivation of the deathstar shield, and ultimately the destruction of the deathstar and defeat of the Empire.
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