Caption the picture game

[Astro Forever]

Originally posted by fafner@Jun 8 2005, 12:41 PM
But since some other people prefer delusion to the truth, should the robot ask the person before answering?
Pearl: What color is that seashell?
True: Do you prefer the truth or the delusion?
Pearl, thinking: What is that silly programmation my father used in that robot? It's worse each time I ask for the color of that damned seashell :wacko:

But why would he say the thruth even if Pearl said she wanted it?

BTW, what are Asimov's laws?

[Big Astro Fan]

Ok. Here's my pic.

[fafner]

Originally posted by Astro forever@Jun 8 2005, 07:43 PM
But why would he say the thruth even if Pearl said she wanted it?

BTW, what are Asimov's laws?

He was programmed to lie to protect Pearl from the truth. If somehow Pearl told True that lying wouldn't protect her, Asimov's Laws of Robotics wouldn't have justified the lies anymore (provided True would be bound to these laws of course, which is not the case in Tezuka's works).

[DrFrag]

Well if no one else is going to ...


"That's right shoppers, this fantastic collection of Robio Donnahue memorabilia could be yours..."

But since some other people prefer delusion to the truth, should the robot ask the person before answering?

That reminds me of a scene from Red Dwarf...

KRYTEN: Are you of the school that, when faced with bad news, prefers to hear that news naked and unvarnished, or are you of the ilk that prefers to live in happy and blissful ignorance of the nightmare you're facing.
RIMMER: Ignorance, every time.
KRYTEN: (Very cheerily) Congratulations sir! You've come storming through your medical with flying colours. See you next time.
RIMMER: Everything's OK then?
KRYTEN: Absolutely peachy.
RIMMER: I want to know, Kryten, if there's something wrong.
KRYTEN: If there were something wrong, sir, I would tell you.
RIMMER: Even if I'd asked you not to?
KRYTEN: Well no. In that case I would lie and tell you everything was absolutely peachy.
RIMMER: Kryten, I want to know, that's why I asked for a medical. Is there bad news?
KRYTEN: Lie mode cancel. Yes sir, I'm afraid there is.

[Astro Forever]

Originally posted by fafner@Jun 8 2005, 06:52 PM
He was programmed to lie to protect Pearl from the truth. If somehow Pearl told True that lying wouldn't protect her, Asimov's Laws of Robotics wouldn't have justified the lies anymore (provided True would be bound to these laws of course, which is not the case in Tezuka's works).

Thank you, it was an interesting reading!


"Your children keep breaking everything? Here is the super strong Robio remote car! Can take any shock from anything up to 50 000 horsepowers! Only $250 or $20 a month for 60 months!"

[Strange Wings]

Originally posted by Astro forever@Jun 9 2005, 07:07 PM
[b]"Your children keep breaking everything? Here is the super strong Robio remote car! Can take any shock from anything up to 50 000 horsepowers! Only $250 or $20 a month for 60 months!" [/b]

$20 a month over a duration for 60 months?! What a rip-off!!
I sincerely hope for the car insurance to be included in those instalments.

[jeffbert]

Originally posted by fafner+Jun 8 2005, 05:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fafner @ Jun 8 2005, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Astro forever@Jun 8 2005, 07:43 PM
But why would he say the thruth even if Pearl said she wanted it?

BTW, what are Asimov's laws?

He was programmed to lie to protect Pearl from the truth. If somehow Pearl told True that lying wouldn't protect her, Asimov's Laws of Robotics wouldn't have justified the lies anymore (provided True would be bound to these laws of course, which is not the case in Tezuka's works). [/b][/quote]
However, it does seem that Tezuka's robots at least in Atom's world are assumed to be incapable of lying. In that very episode at the end, Atom deceives the girl by immitating True's voice & by assuring her that everything was ok, much to his classmates' surprise. In the beginning DW comments to his class that Atom cannot lie. However, Atom is not an everyday robot. He was designed to live the life of Tobio, so his creator obviously incorporated several features that made him more human-like.

In the Chronicles (manga 6-8) Tenma scolds him for wanting to associate with other robots. He tells him that he is different from other robots. His non-robot-like qualities were necessary for him to fill the role of Tobio. However, Tenma soon realized they were not enough to make him human.

In the 2003, the robots in the kingdom of (I forgot the name) were avoiding their mistress because they knew if she questioned them, they were helpless to hide the surprise dragon they were making. However, one could infer that the avoidance itself was a form of deceit, because by avoiding her they were hiding the truth from her.

[tic_tac_astro]

Uran:If I'm able to create a toy for Robbie Productions, it has to be something with Robbie's face on it. So, I created, the Robbie Sports Car! It holds tons of Robbie's actions when played by the remote control! It has super speed, atomic lasers, and even tae-kwon-do!

[fafner]

Originally posted by jeffbert@Jun 9 2005, 10:39 PM
However, it does seem that Tezuka's robots at least in Atom's world are assumed to be incapable of lying. In that very episode at the end, Atom deceives the girl by immitating True's voice & by assuring her that everything was ok, much to his classmates' surprise. In the beginning DW comments to his class that Atom cannot lie. However, Atom is not an everyday robot. He was designed to live the life of Tobio, so his creator obviously incorporated several features that made him more human-like.

Astro didn't technically lied. He took True's voice and said he was allright. No lie in the sentence semantic
Of course one can argue that Astro intended to deceive Pearl by making her believe that True was the one saying he was allright So what is the lie? the intend to deceive or the formulation of a semanticly false sentence?

[Astro Forever]

Originally posted by Strange Wings+Jun 9 2005, 03:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Strange Wings @ Jun 9 2005, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Astro forever@Jun 9 2005, 07:07 PM
[b]"Your children keep breaking everything? Here is the super strong Robio remote car! Can take any shock from anything up to 50 000 horsepowers! Only $250 or $20 a month for 60 months!" [/b]

$20 a month over a duration for 60 months?! What a rip-off!!
I sincerely hope for the car insurance to be included in those instalments.
[/b][/quote]
I can't tell you, it was written in small characters during the commercial, thus making it unreadable!