Maybe you might find those funny...

[CommanderEVE]

[QUOTE=Strange Wings;70060]*yawn* I'm finally able to drop by here again, it was getting very late yesterday (due to an Iron Maiden concert). irate: :d evil: [QUOTE]


COOL what song did they sing?

[Strange Wings]

At times, even *I* had trouble understanding what was said during the show! I remember having to play a sentence again when I had recorded an episode.

Ah, that's comforting to know. Overhere we're having some dialects even 'inhabitants' have trouble to understand entirely.

Oh yes, that was Thérèse! She had a crazy hairstyle, almost always different, in each episode.

I also liked how her sister-in-law always dresses in one single color from top to bottom!

Funny crowd! They should release the series overhere in Europe and dub/subtitle it for the german people.

Edit: BTW, "toé" and "moé" were the norm in France a few hundreds of years ago.

I see. Like, as a comparison, the old english containing words as 'thou shalt', 'thee', 'thy' etc. isn't it?

COOL what song did they sing?

They'd played themselves through their whole new album, including standarts as '2 Minutes To Midnight', 'Hallowed Be Thy Name', 'Iron Maiden' etc.
Dickinson sure is unbelievable! He's somewhere in the 50's now, nevertheless he was jumping and bouncing around like a 17 year old.
His vocal performance is truly amazing! Still the same as it was 20 years ago.

[CommanderEVE]

cool the only songs i've heard from iron Maiden 666 the number of the beast and the other i can't remenber the rest

[fafner]

I see. Like, as a comparison, the old english containing words as 'thou shalt', 'thee', 'thy' etc. isn't it?

That's not the same thing. "moé" and "toé" are obsolete pronounciations of words that still exist (at least in France, since in Quebec the pronounciation is still standard). On the other hand, "thou" is an obsolete word in English. "shall" is a rarely used word, but still appears here and there.

[Astro Forever]

Ah, that's comforting to know. Overhere we're having some dialects even 'inhabitants' have trouble to understand entirely.

What are they? Variations of Swiss German?

At least, as different as my French and fafner's sound, they can still be considered the same language!

Funny crowd! They should release the series overhere in Europe and dub/subtitle it for the german people.

The show was seen as a parody of a typical Quebec family, but I think you are right, the main theme - family relationships - is universal enough that people could recognize themselves (and their relatives) even in other cultures.

They never get along, except when they bear a common grudge against a family member: then they'll join together to tease him. Most of the lines are family members making fun of another family member and the said family member answering back!

Aside from dad and mom, and old couple who doesn't get along at all anymore (did they ever use to, actually? ) but who stays together for obscure reasons, there's the youngest son (the one who said he was going at the veterinary) who, even at 30 something, still tries everything he can to draw his parents' attention because they have never loved him ever since he was born.

The oldest one is still mom's little boy, coming back home with a bag of his dirty clothes so mom can wash them for him, which she does with enthusiasm since he is her favorite!

There's the daughter who falls for whatever the latest trend is, such as pose nude to support an environmental cause or convince her father that he ruined her childhood and that he has to help her through her therapy to find back the "child within herself" (there was a scene with both of them in a cradle! ).

Then the other daughter (with the crazy hair), who's really stupid and who everybody makes fun of because she doesn't even understand the cracks, and who keeps failing a recipe which involves three ingredients. Mom still tries to teach her nonetheless!

And on top of that, there are the spouses: a compulsive liar (the one who kept missing the scene) who cheats on her wife (the stupid daughter) and the very idiot daughter-in-law that nobody likes (the one who dresses in just one color, one tone).

There's another Quebec show that made it worldwide, "Un gars, une fille", which was adapted and translated in many countries. I know Switzerland bought the rights but I do not know if it was broadcast (yet). It's about a couple's life. It's shot with just one camera and the most significant people in their life (parents, best friends) are never to be seen, only heard, except for the forearms and hands. It started as just a little ordinary show, but it became very popular and the producers realized they had a universal theme.

I see. Like, as a comparison, the old english containing words as 'thou shalt', 'thee', 'thy' etc. isn't it?

What fafner said.

That's not the same thing. "moé" and "toé" are obsolete pronounciations of words that still exist (at least in France, since in Quebec the pronounciation is still standard).

Standard? Well, it depends of what you mean. It's considered bad pronunciation here and so only a minority of people speaks like that. They might not be pronounced as "purely" as they are in France though. I really have to go there and hear for myself. I'll do that someday!

However, especially when somebody is angry or will want to put emphasize on those words, those word can often sound like "TOa" and "MOa" (emphasize on the "O", with the "a" barely heard), which could be considered a milder form, I guess. Sometimes even the "toé" can appear once in a while when somebody's angry, for example: "Aye toé, don't ever do that again!" even though the person usually does not speak like that.

[Strange Wings]

cool the only songs i've heard from iron Maiden 666 the number of the beast and the other i can't remenber the rest

That's the one song they didn't brought, perhaps they've grown sick'n tired of playing it. It's said that they can't identify themselves with the song's lyrics anymore . Although I can relate perfectly, still there was something missing after the encore was done. :d evil:

That's not the same thing. "moé" and "toé" are obsolete pronounciations of words that still exist (at least in France, since in Quebec the pronounciation is still standard). On the other hand, "thou" is an obsolete word in English. "shall" is a rarely used word, but still appears here and there.

Oh, ok! "Shall" still happens to be in use indeed, however I wondered about its ancient equivalent "shalt".

What are they? Variations of Swiss German?

At least, as different as my French and fafner's sound, they can still be considered the same language!

Yeah, they're variations of it. Depending on what county (called 'cantons' overhere) you're picking out, our language changes in pronounciation of vowels and consonants, e.g. the "r" happens to get pronounced by rolling it in the throat like the french people use to do.
I'm lucky to be grown up in the canton of Berne since many people (and even foreign ones) are finding the dialect of Berne to be the most beautiful one used in our country. So, my native language is actually the same as the juggling act's, whose video links I posted at this topic's beginning.

The show was seen as a parody of a typical Quebec family, but I think you are right, the main theme - family relationships - is universal enough that people could recognize themselves (and their relatives) even in other cultures.

They never get along, except when they bear a common grudge against a family member: then they'll join together to tease him. Most of the lines are family members making fun of another family member and the said family member answering back!

Can this show be regarded as a SitCom? We used to have had similar shows here, which also were dealing with family/relatives situations. The shows' titles (roughly translated) were "Nearly A Family", "Kinds Of Men" or "End Of Fun", for naming a few.
It's funny how I'm starting to recognize certain schemes of characters common to these shows when I read myself through your cast presentation. All of those shows mentioned are featuring a leading character (in most cases an authoritarian one, like "dad", "elderly aunt", "grandpa" or whoever), and are having at least one character punished with a low IQ rate.
I too think that SitComs about family situations are worldwide popular because, as you already mentioned before, the audience happens to recognize themselves within the characters' particular actings or within the dialogue between them. Those shows are actually nothing but a burlesque about our own family relations, thus, we're actually laughing at ourselves when we giggle at a character's oversubscribed acting.

There's another Quebec show that made it worldwide, "Un gars, une fille", which was adapted and translated in many countries. I know Switzerland bought the rights but I do not know if it was broadcast (yet). It's about a couple's life. It's shot with just one camera and the most significant people in their life (parents, best friends) are never to be seen, only heard, except for the forearms and hands. It started as just a little ordinary show, but it became very popular and the producers realized they had a universal theme.

I can't recall having seen it announced yet, however the french title as well as the storyline seems pretty familiar to me. Maybe they re-titled the show as something different? Must check the TV program more carefully in the next following time then!

Btw, 'Astro le petit robot' will be on air again on our swiss-french TV channel, starting this monday with a daily emission till friday. Apparently they're going to show the 2nd season of the 03' series, oh well....
I was anticipating the 80's version though , after all, it's been already a year since it got released on DVD.

[fafner]

Oh, ok! "Shall" still happens to be in use indeed, however I wondered about its ancient equivalent "shalt".

"shalt" is "shall" It is the variation with "thou":
I shall
thou shalt
he/she/it/we/you/they shall
Same with "to be":
I am
thou art
he/she/it is
we/you/they are
Have a look here, I learnt many things by reading this article

[Astro Forever]

Yeah, they're variations of it. Depending on what county (called 'cantons' overhere) you're picking out, our language changes in pronounciation of vowels and consonants, e.g. the "r" happens to get pronounced by rolling it in the throat like the french people use to do.
I'm lucky to be grown up in the canton of Berne since many people (and even foreign ones) are finding the dialect of Berne to be the most beautiful one used in our country. So, my native language is actually the same as the juggling act's, whose video links I posted at this topic's beginning.

Ah, thanks! Now it's almost as if I had heard you! And so you are from the Berne canton? *Looks up Berne in Wikipedia* Okay, now I see! I still don't know much about Switzerland, but it's getting a little better. Looks like the city of Berne is amazing, at least historically speaking. I'm jealous!

Can this show be regarded as a SitCom? We used to have had similar shows here, which also were dealing with family/relatives situations. The shows' titles (roughly translated) were "Nearly A Family", "Kinds Of Men" or "End Of Fun", for naming a few.
It's funny how I'm starting to recognize certain schemes of characters common to these shows when I read myself through your cast presentation. All of those shows mentioned are featuring a leading character (in most cases an authoritarian one, like "dad", "elderly aunt", "grandpa" or whoever), and are having at least one character punished with a low IQ rate.

Muhahaha! Looks like nobody's reinventing the wheel! I think it would fall in the sitcom category, yes.

I too think that SitComs about family situations are worldwide popular because, as you already mentioned before, the audience happens to recognize themselves within the characters' particular actings or within the dialogue between them. Those shows are actually nothing but a burlesque about our own family relations, thus, we're actually laughing at ourselves when we giggle at a character's oversubscribed acting.

Yes... and of course, people have fun recognizing their own in-laws or neighbors, but nobody ever seems to recognize himself or herself!

I can't recall having seen it announced yet, however the french title as well as the storyline seems pretty familiar to me. Maybe they re-titled the show as something different? Must check the TV program more carefully in the next following time then!

It's very possible that it had a new title. The idea is very simple: show the daily life of an urban couple in their late 30s. Here they'll have a few sketches of them shopping, then a few of them watching TV, etc. Here it was shown in a 30 minutes format, but in France it was only something like 7 minutes at a time.

Btw, 'Astro le petit robot' will be on air again on our swiss-french TV channel, starting this monday with a daily emission till friday. Apparently they're going to show the 2nd season of the 03' series, oh well....
I was anticipating the 80's version though , after all, it's been already a year since it got released on DVD.

Yeah, I remember when I first saw "Astro Boy" by accident in my TV Guide two years ago, I was wondering which version it was. I had forgotten that I had read a few years before about a new series so I wasn't sure what to expect. Have they already broadcast season 2 in the past? If not, better late than never, I guess, but it's another reason why one shouldn't be surprised if it wasn't that popular.

Something funny happened to me yesterday. I was watching an old Quebec series (not one of those we mentioned before) on DVD. (Part of it was shot in Switzerland as this was a coproduction, so if you've ever seen a TV series about hockey, that's probably the one; I know it had been dubbed in German.) I was really, really, really into that TV series when I was a teen, and so I had recorded the episodes on VHS and watched them a lot. So much that the tapes became really old. So much that even though I had bought the DVDs two years ago, it was actually the first time I was putting those particular episodes in a DVD player, because I had not felt the need to watch them again yet!

Anyway, at one point, there is a scene in a store, and what do I see in the background, behind the counter, among items on sale?????? Since a picture is worth a thousand words:



Ah, if only I could buy these today... LOL!

What's amazing though is, how did that happen? How did one of my favorite shows manage to show up in another of my favorite shows? What are the odds of that happening, and how come I had never noticed that before?

Edit: ...and I've just seen a mistake in the picture, lol!

[Strange Wings]

"shalt" is "shall" It is the variation with "thou":
I shall
thou shalt
he/she/it/we/you/they shall
Same with "to be":
I am
thou art
he/she/it is
we/you/they are
Have a look here, I learnt many things by reading this article

Aah, good ol' Wikipedia!
Thanks for the conjugation scale! I like the old english as it has a smooth sounding flow of words, moreover it's very lyrical. Uses to remind me at Robin Hood, King Arthur & Shakebeer, (pardon) Shakespeare.
To recite the latter:
"Oh that this too solid flesh would melt, thaw and resolve itself into a dew. Or that the everlasting had not fixed his canon 'gainst self slaughter ..." (taken somewhere out of 'Hamlet').

Ah, thanks! Now it's almost as if I had heard you! And so you are from the Berne canton? *Looks up Berne in Wikipedia* Okay, now I see! I still don't know much about Switzerland, but it's getting a little better. Looks like the city of Berne is amazing, at least historically speaking. I'm jealous!

I'm not living in the city of Berne directly, but in a suburb about 7 km close to it, however I use to go to the city almost every weekend for shopping, meeting friends, etc.
Berne is beautiful indeed, not just the city, but also the different locations around it, the landscapes and mountains. Another beautiful city lying in the canton of Berne being Thun, located directly at a picturesque lake surrounded by mountains having an altitude up to 1500 km. My sister's family is living there, pretty fitting location for the draughtswoman she is.

Yes... and of course, people have fun recognizing their own in-laws or neighbors, but nobody ever seems to recognize himself or herself!

So true! Remember the phrase "What are you looking after the splint in your brother's eye for, when you don't recognize the timber in your own"? Each time I watch such kind of series, I really have to practise self-control not to slip into notions as 'Yeah, go tell it to my neighbour' or 'I hope my brother is watching this too'!

Yeah, I remember when I first saw "Astro Boy" by accident in my TV Guide two years ago, I was wondering which version it was. I had forgotten that I had read a few years before about a new series so I wasn't sure what to expect. Have they already broadcast season 2 in the past? If not, better late than never, I guess, but it's another reason why one shouldn't be surprised if it wasn't that popular.

Yeah, absolutely! What's more about restraining the series' popularty, nowadays they always tend to show them at inconvenient times like 10:00am each day during the week. In 1986 when I watched the series for the first time, they used to send them at eve around 6:00pm, which was/is the best time for the spectators' majority. Also, they didn't send an episode each day but only one per week, which was far the less chance to miss a particular ep. Like this, I always could wait in joyful anticipation for Astro's next upcoming adventure.
IMO, the TV stations around that time were a lot more inclined for maintaining a certain continuity at broadcasting series than it is the case today. In the 80's, the stations hadn't necessarily increased the quantity of series' episodes in a week, but at least they stuck with them and managed to send every single episode till the series was over.
Now have a look at today: they probably show 10 to 15 eps within a short period of time, are realising about the audience rating not being satisfactory, and all of a sudden the series gets dropped out of the program without being entirely shown. Sadly, that's the policy of most TV stations today. Competition is increasing, every station tries to outdo the other by sending the newest stuff without giving it a chance to develope itself to the audience.
No wonder most people (me included) tend clinging to the past, they simply can't digest that overflow of shortliving TV presentations anymore.
Alas, that's a problem not only the media is concerned with, any other corporation too may have to cope with that today.

Ah, if only I could buy these today... LOL!

What's amazing though is, how did that happen? How did one of my favorite shows manage to show up in another of my favorite shows? What are the odds of that happening, and how come I had never noticed that before?

OMG, unbelievable! I think this coincidence can be filed under "There are more things between heaven and earth that can't be explained by the human being's limited intellect" ('Horatio', sorry, was too lazy for looking up the authentic phrase using the old english ).
You may handle it in the comfortable way and call it 'destiny'.

I think some items shown in that pic are still around on eBay. Judging by the the booklet's cover to the upper left, it's a painting book I spotted some time ago on the french eBay site. The other Astro poses are looking kinda familiar too!

Edit: ...and I've just seen a mistake in the picture, lol!

Me too, I think we spotted the same one, didn't we? Something that should be green, is actually white there...
*sigh* diehard sure is our middle name!

[CommanderEVE]

irate: to much wrigting.... to... much