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Postby Fauna » 17 years ago

"munquibyte" wrote:I loved Tenma from the getgo-but I might not have felt the same about him if I wasn't aware of his angst. I had a big problem with him in the 2003 series-they couldn't leave him as this brokenhearted, short tempered, frustrated lout with a lousy grasp of free will.
No, they had to make him this evil, manipulative Social Darwinist out to start a World War. That completely killed the reconsolation between him and Astro for me. :d oh:


I felt like that back when I'd only seen the 80's series and the manga. The manga was how I got to really like Tenma, with stuff him secretly helping out Astro in return for how mean he treated him. But then I watched a little of the 2003 series and was angry and a little confused about him turning into an angry, obsessive warlord.
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Postby jeffbert » 17 years ago

Here is Tenma from his role in Melmo:
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The frog is really little brother (totoo) who was thinking about the wrong thing when he ate the candy.
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Postby tonigirl1000 » 17 years ago

Sounds like they wanted Tenma to be viewed as a madman.

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Postby jeffbert » 17 years ago

Tenma as a character in Astroboy is very different in the older manga and anime than he is in the newer. In 2003, he is clearly insane. In the Egyptian Conspiritors (manga) he actually tells the Cleopatra robot that Atom acted correctly in oppsing him, and counsels her to oppose her own creator. :tenma:
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Postby tonigirl1000 » 17 years ago

Please tell me one thing about Tenma was he the one who originally created Astroboy? If so it was a miracle that Astroboy turned out as great as he did. Thanks
PS- In the cartoon i seen it did look like the creator of Astroboy was not all there.

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Postby jeffbert » 17 years ago

Tenma is the fictional creator of Astroboy, while Tezuka is the literal creator of Tenma & Astroboy. Likwise, Dr. Ochamizu created Uran (Astrogirl), mama, Papa, & in the anime, Cobalt (Jetto) as Atom's prototype and, older brother. However in the manga, Dr. Ochanomizu created Cobalt as Atom's younger brother.
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Postby Fauna » 17 years ago

"jeffbert" wrote:Here is Tenma from his role in Melmo:
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The frog is really little brother (totoo) who was thinking about the wrong thing when he ate the candy.


He looks like such a weirdie! That picture's gonna haunt my nightmares...
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Postby Hikari Tail » 17 years ago

( my two most faves of Tenma are from the Manga and 2003 series ) i don't think he was insane evil but he just was frustated with humanity, and the manga version he went from tragic to mean to finally see his own flaws and knowing he did wrong by Astro, but i love his 2003 version because he then got the most atention while in the old anime series he apeared one to two times.

the only Tenma i didn't like is the one old manga version where he was drunk.
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Postby munquibyte » 17 years ago

I dunno, man, he was awful calculating to be just frustrated. In the second epp he encourages Astro to play that ball-game-tournament-thingy by threatening to murder everyone in the stadium, and then pulling the strings that led up to that Blue Knight's robo uprising....and then shoving the poor kid up against Atlas, grrr!(granted, it made Atlas a better person in the end, but it wasn't what Tenma had in mind)

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Postby Hikari Tail » 17 years ago

"munquibyte" wrote:I dunno, man, he was awful calculating to be just frustrated. In the second epp he encourages Astro to play that ball-game-tournament-thingy by threatening to murder everyone in the stadium, and then pulling the strings that led up to that Blue Knight's robo uprising....and then shoving the poor kid up against Atlas, grrr!(granted, it made Atlas a better person in the end, but it wasn't what Tenma had in mind)


Yeah thats his dark way of forcing Astro to play a game just because he could see how much he `evloved` , but i gues i love the evil and good sides of the character that what makes him so intreseting.
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