Astroboy's Valentine

[Daichi]

[QUOTE=Daichi;77954]I KNOW THAT. But it doesn't make it any less creepy that she is even thinking in that direction.

First, Ryo may be as well male or female, I don't remember having seen him/her giving a precision on this topic
Second, thinking in any direction, disgusting or not, shouldn't be of any concern. After all, in order to be disgusted by an idea, one have to think about it in the first place (not to mention evaluating morality, ethics, appropriateness, etc)
Third, jeffbert is right: Nikky, Nuka, or whatever her name, is as much Astro's sister as Uran, as they all 3 come from basically the same blueprints (as well as Atlas).

Hey, not trying to outrage you, only to make you embrace several points of view *protecting face with arms* [/QUOTE]

Wow you managed to finish writing that before I posted. I was talking to Jeffbert, to clarify, but what I said can be considered equal response to this post as well.
Ryo is a girl. She's a friend of Toni's or something, but that doesn't make me like her.

Aaand, finally...
*stomach jab*
I'm not all that mad, I just couldn't resist because you covered your face. X-D

[fafner]

Aaand, finally...
*stomach jab*
I'm not all that mad, I just couldn't resist because you covered your face. X-D

Damned will come in full armor next time

[Daichi]

[QUOTE=Daichi;77963]Aaand, finally...
*stomach jab*
I'm not all that mad, I just couldn't resist because you covered your face. X-D

Damned will come in full armor next time [/QUOTE]

Hahaha.

[Dragonrider1227]

It's odd really, how Uran and Atlas are considered his siblings but Nuka is not.
I don't really understand how being based on the same design makes them siblings anyways.
But, well, with Uran, she's just "Astro's sister", period. It's ground into your brain so much, I can't think of them any other way. I just find it disturbing.

So what story are you talking about with 'other sisters'?

I thought that with Atlas. How he's supposed to be Astro's brother. He is Astro's brother in the 80s series too, right?

[tonigirl1000]

HI- Please how did that happen to Astroboy that he had to kill his other sisters?
I think the same blueprints would quality as having the same genetic background in humans.

[Daichi]

[QUOTE=Daichi;77962]It's odd really, how Uran and Atlas are considered his siblings but Nuka is not.
I don't really understand how being based on the same design makes them siblings anyways.
But, well, with Uran, she's just "Astro's sister", period. It's ground into your brain so much, I can't think of them any other way. I just find it disturbing.

So what story are you talking about with 'other sisters'?

I thought that with Atlas. How he's supposed to be Astro's brother. He is Astro's brother in the 80s series too, right?[/QUOTE]

Yeah. In the new anime they could to some degree be considered 'brothers' as they have the same creator. However, since Daichi is a cyborg you could also just as easily say that they are not brothers because he is technically human.
In the 80's anime they were said to be brothers, but Astro was created by Tenma and Atlas, built from Astro's stolen design, was made by another man.
That being said, I never understood how Astro's design was stolen and used to make Atlas and then stolen again and used to make Nuka. It just doesn't make sense.

[jeffbert]

First, tonigirl1000's Question:

If Atlas was Atom's brother because they were based upon the same design, then, by the same reasoning, Nuka must be their sister.

The other sisters were the yet to be born or activated robots in Dr. Rindolf's lab. Atom destroyed them, lest Rindolf use them as robot bombs.

Now, Daichi:

However, since Daichi is a cyborg you could also just as easily say that they are not brothers because he is technically human.

I was not under the impression that he was a cyborg, but a robot. Please tell me why you think this.

In the 80's anime they were said to be brothers, but Astro was created by Tenma and Atlas, built from Astro's stolen design, was made by another man.

That being said, I never understood how Astro's design was stolen and used to make Atlas and then stolen again and used to make Nuka. It just doesn't make sense.

I do not see how merely being built by a different man is even a factor here. If the fact that they share a design as Kin Sankaku (Guiss) says, makes them brothers, then it seems that it goes without saying that Nuka is their sister. To complicate things, Cobalt (Jetto) is by the same logic, Atom's elder or younger brother, depending on whether we are talking about the 60s anime or the manga.

Atom's 'parents' are obviously not necessarily related to him, as I cannot recall anything being said about them sharing any design with Atom. Atlas in the 80s is correct, a robot cannot have parents. However, as Tenma designed Atom to act and behave as his little boy, it follows that Atom had a need for a father, a longing for a father, at the very least. Being in this state, when Atom saw the love between the mother duck and her ducklings (manga), the horse and her baby (60s) or Shibugaki (Alvin) & his mother (80s), he remembered the love he received from DR T, and longed for more of the same. Thus, he was incomplete without a parent. The single biggest compliant I have with the 2003 version, is that Atom & Uran are living with Dr. Ochanomizu, rather than a mother & father robot. Dr. O just does not cut it, & Robita (Nora) as a nanny is likewise inadequate.

[Daichi]

Now, Daichi:

However, since Daichi is a cyborg you could also just as easily say that they are not brothers because he is technically human.

I was not under the impression that he was a cyborg, but a robot. Please tell me why you think this.

Well, in the original Japanese version (and in the new manga and video game), Daichi was a human boy and the son of Tokugawa. When he was killed in an accident, he was made into a cyborg. Atlas is actually more human than Astro because he wasn't just based on Daichi, he really is Daichi.

In the 80's anime they were said to be brothers, but Astro was created by Tenma and Atlas, built from Astro's stolen design, was made by another man.

That being said, I never understood how Astro's design was stolen and used to make Atlas and then stolen again and used to make Nuka. It just doesn't make sense.

I do not see how merely being built by a different man is even a factor here. If the fact that they share a design as Kin Sankaku (Guiss) says, makes them brothers, then it seems that it goes without saying that Nuka is their sister. To complicate things, Cobalt (Jetto) is by the same logic, Atom's elder or younger brother, depending on whether we are talking about the 60s anime or the manga.

The single biggest compliant I have with the 2003 version, is that Atom & Uran are living with Dr. Ochanomizu, rather than a mother & father robot. Dr. O just does not cut it, & Robita (Nora) as a nanny is likewise inadequate.

I still don't get how sharing the same design makes them siblings and you didn't explain that.

And by the way, personally I actually prefer it without his weird parents, with Dr. Ochanomizu caring for him instead. I loved him having Ochanomizu as a father and their bond is strong and sweet. He's exactly the kind of father I wish I could have, if I had a father.
Since he spends most of his time with Ochanomizu in either anime anyway, maybe you could see it as cutting out the middle man. X-D

[jeffbert]

But Tobio was certainly a human boy who died. The Tobio robot was made in his image and eventually renamed Atom. Why is it that Tenma made Diachi a cyborg, but made Atom a mere robot?

[Daichi]

Well, since Tobio dies in a car accident, it's entirely possible there was trauma to the brain.
That, and Daichi was made into a cyborg right after he died, plus Tokugawa wanted Tenma to ressurect Daichi, not to make a robot lookalike.

But this is merely theory.